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Downtown Seoul is only 35 miles from the DMZ with suburbs encroaching on the DMZ itself.
1 posted on 09/26/2017 9:20:14 AM PDT by C19fan
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I really see the Norks as a paper tiger, that won’t stop roaring.


2 posted on 09/26/2017 9:22:22 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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President Trump’s threatening posture toward North Korea — most recently exhibited at the United Nations, where he warned that the U.S. could “totally destroy” the country — has prompted military strategists to examine what would actually happen if a war broke out.
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How convenient of them to leave out the little fact that President Trump’s “totally destroy” comment was contingent on North Korea attacking us or our allies first.


3 posted on 09/26/2017 9:23:44 AM PDT by Pravious
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BS

If this thing starts, it will not be a series of escallating stages. Trump and top military people have already telegraphed that this will be an all-or-nothing affair. This is true brinkmanship. Kim needs to face the fact that if he initiates war, the U.S. has no choice but to assure his complete and immediate neutralization.


4 posted on 09/26/2017 9:24:02 AM PDT by z3n
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A properly time attack, considering Time Over Target, North Korea would be totally neutralized within a matter of minutes......................


5 posted on 09/26/2017 9:24:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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The conflict that Stavridis envisions might start with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un launching a missile that lands on or near Guam. The United States then moves aircraft carrier strike groups within range of the peninsula and retaliates with an airstrike on a coastal launch facility, perhaps using a Tomahawk cruise missile — similar to the attack the U.S. launched to punish Syria for its use of chemical weapons.

Sorry but that scenario is nonsense. If President Trump decides to use force it will be overwhelming force. Not a single tomahawk so he can sit back and see what Rocket Man does in response.

6 posted on 09/26/2017 9:24:34 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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Remember all the incredibly frightening stories about how horrible a war with Saddam Hussein would be? About the “elite Republican Guards,” about the ghastly prospects for “urban warfare,” about how Saddam’s forces were “hardened” by years of war with Iran?

The MSM ran them in ‘91, and they ran them again in 2003.


7 posted on 09/26/2017 9:24:50 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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Reconnaissance reconnaissance reconnaissance

Then a quick bullet between Un’s eyes.


8 posted on 09/26/2017 9:30:41 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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Hit Guam or any other US ally with a missile, and the world will witness the absolute power of an Ohio Class sub. 24 birds at 10 MIRVs each? Hard to fire artillery when you’ve been vaporized.

Seoul would not be pummeled with arty - it wouldn’t exist.


9 posted on 09/26/2017 9:31:39 AM PDT by datura
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Our military has a reactive chain of command that allows lower divisions to act on their own. The whole Nork Military takes its orders from one man. Kill him, it’s over.

The problem will be China. China does not want US/SK boots on the ground.


10 posted on 09/26/2017 9:31:43 AM PDT by struggle (The)
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President Trump’s threatening posture toward North Korea

SO fat boy testing nukes isn't threatening? So firing missiles over allied countries is not threatening? So constantly debasing our currency with counterfeit money is not threatening? Killing our citizens in his gulags is not threatening?
11 posted on 09/26/2017 9:33:36 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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I cant go into how or why I know this, but the most successful war simulations between the US and NK call for a sudden escalation of a low level conflict to a massive nuke strike by the US. The taking out of the vast majority of the NK military personnel via neutron bombs followed by large numbers of tactical nukes taking out air, artillery and sea ports.

This is then followed by a substantial insertion of SK and US forces on the border between NK and China and precise bombing of bridges between NK and China.


12 posted on 09/26/2017 9:33:58 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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The most sure-fire way to shoot down Nork missiles, is to hit them before they are launched...


13 posted on 09/26/2017 9:34:33 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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When the balloon goes up, have in the air some 120 heavy bombers each with 80,000 to 100,000 lbs of GPS bombs to hammer every known and suspected NK artillery piece within the range of Seoul and other population centers. That’s about 150 ~ 200 bombs (Mk82s with GPS units) per bomber. North Korea would get the sobering.


14 posted on 09/26/2017 9:36:41 AM PDT by Red Steel
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1) Take Musk’s tunnel digger, build a nuclear powered version of it.
2) Have it dig it’s way from the coast under Pyongyang.
3) Have it build a honeycomb of tunnels under Pyongyang.
4) So that the next time NK sets tests a nuclear bomb, Pyongyang becomes Taedong lake.

/supervillain mode off


15 posted on 09/26/2017 9:38:47 AM PDT by DannyTN
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We were also expected to suffer massive loses fighting the 4th largest army in the world...Iraq.

Analysts cautioned the Pentagon to purchase at least 100,000 body bags.


16 posted on 09/26/2017 9:38:52 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The North Korean military is composed of obsolete Soviet and Chinese hand-me-downs, our military would wipe out the North Korean Air Force, Navy and large swaths of the mobile artillery in the first few hours of a conflict. The two "aces" that North Korea does have are its Nuclear Arsenal (which is admittedly a huge ace) and secondly, thousands of mobile artillery batteries already in position and pointed at Seoul.

The point being, that even though we could wipe them out rather quickly, it would still not be quickly enough to stop them from raining multiple artillery (and perhaps nuclear) strikes on South Korea.

17 posted on 09/26/2017 9:38:54 AM PDT by apillar
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The L.A. Times experts can be found tapping out messages with their toes to the denizens of the bus station from whom they learned everything they know about military matters.


19 posted on 09/26/2017 9:40:42 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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I see a network of tunnels under the DMZ that will allow for thousands of NK soldiers to surface from concealed outlets into civilian areas of Seoul, killing in massive numbers as the South Koreans are unable to counterattack without having more civilian casualties than military.


21 posted on 09/26/2017 9:41:48 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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Trump should be quiet. The reality is that Trump’s sanctions are working, and will really put the screws to NK. NK feels if they can make Trump turn it into a defense issue then they can wriggle out of it, or get China to support them. But as long as the sanctions have a chance these guys will fold.


30 posted on 09/26/2017 9:47:38 AM PDT by poinq
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I actually did a fair amount of wargaming while in Project Checkmate for 8 years. The first effort way before my time was Kennedy at Camp David. He just watched as the President was never supposed to share his most inner thoughts until it was time for real. I worked a worldwide exercise where I helped draft the request to WH for nuclear release authority to hit Soviet subs (boomer boats) in the North Atlantic. The VP Mondale was playing and request was rejected. I always thought that it interesting that Mondale was willing to sacrifice one or more major cities in the NE before launching retaliation strike.


32 posted on 09/26/2017 9:48:45 AM PDT by Portcall24
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