Posted on 09/26/2017 9:20:14 AM PDT by C19fan
I see a network of tunnels under the DMZ that will allow for thousands of NK soldiers to surface from concealed outlets into civilian areas of Seoul, killing in massive numbers as the South Koreans are unable to counterattack without having more civilian casualties than military.
I always thought the Korea issue was simply resolved. China doesn’t want the US military on its border. The US wants to get rid of the mad man with the nukes. The average Korean wants Korea to be a unified country. Here’s the deal:
- China removes the kook and ships the nukes back to China and/or destroys them.
- the NK military is disbanded.
- SK is given complete control of the peninsula on the understanding that there is a demilitarized zone 5o km deep on either side of the China/Korea border.
- the US agrees not to station troops north of the 38th and to withdraw its forces from SK within 5 years.
The US can ensure that Korea is sufficiently well armed that China would never dare a conventional attack (not to mention that the amount of trade between China and Korea would escalate to the point where China couldn’t risk the destruction of that trading relationship).
I see them as horrendously dangerous. Norkboy may roar like a paper tiger, but he has life-on-earth-ending weapons and extraordinarily good hackers.....We should get together with Japan and South Korea and take him out asap
A paper tiger that will take as many people as it can with it on its way down.
Tom Clancy wrote some great stuff about North Korea attacking SK.
Just irradiated into a ghost town in your scenario.
When was the last war that was won by air power alone? Answer NONE. Germany was defeated when over run by two armies. Korea was not, in fact the war is not over, just a stalemate. Vietnam, how many thousands of tons of bombs did we drop? Did we win. Iraq, airpower softened them up but the war was “won” on the ground.
We do not have a large enough army now, nor the means to get one to Korea quick enough to “win” a war with the NORKS and presumably with the Reds without use of nukes. Once that balloon goes up, its over IMO.
My advice, starve the bastard out with a blockade and financial means and shoot down anything he launches.
With the CBU-105 the USAF and USN aircraft could cover the entire length of the DMZ...3 miles inward...in a day.
They could move north the next 3 miles the following day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBU-97_Sensor_Fuzed_Weapon
He’s saying that Seoul would be safe because NORK artillery would not exist.
First two will happen.
Then China will take over NK and use it as a sweatshop. They will slowly reintroduce the country to the world over a decade.
Trump should be quiet. The reality is that Trump’s sanctions are working, and will really put the screws to NK. NK feels if they can make Trump turn it into a defense issue then they can wriggle out of it, or get China to support them. But as long as the sanctions have a chance these guys will fold.
These weapons were designed to take out artillery and armor.
It’s what they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY9gojFu-_U
I actually did a fair amount of wargaming while in Project Checkmate for 8 years. The first effort way before my time was Kennedy at Camp David. He just watched as the President was never supposed to share his most inner thoughts until it was time for real. I worked a worldwide exercise where I helped draft the request to WH for nuclear release authority to hit Soviet subs (boomer boats) in the North Atlantic. The VP Mondale was playing and request was rejected. I always thought that it interesting that Mondale was willing to sacrifice one or more major cities in the NE before launching retaliation strike.
President Trump was just on a live broadcast in a White House meeting with Spanish P M Rajoy. Each were seated in a chair on either side of a small table. Each made a brief statement to the press.
All very routine...except that rather than being flanked by their respective national flags, the flags displayed were those of the USN and the USMC.
I want to start by saying I don’t believe we can tolerate North Korea’s behavior or a nuclear capability. That said it scares me how many freepers think this will be clean and easy. The norks have enough artillery (likely chemical and biological armed shells included) to level Seoul in short order and evacuation would take days. Short of tactical nukes to destroy said artillery positions without warning will most likely lead to massive South Korean civilian casualties. The other problem is China will not likely sit it out. The more likely reaction will be like the first round of war there plus possibly using the situation to invade Taiwan. So in closing I would agree action is needed but without question it is a “go big or stay at home” moment. If we are not willing to lay waste to China and North Korea we are not ready for this fight. It is possible China will not intervene but imho not likely. They had much worse odds the last time and were still “all in. “
The only way to fight them is immediate and total destruction.
No ground troops needed.
Didn’t the ChiComs already tell Kim Phat Boi that he’s on his own if he attacks first?
I was thinking the same thing. The "experts" predicted that we were going to loose hundreds of thousands of guys during Desert Storm.
Just prior to DESERT STORM, I received a call from a reporter.
He wanted to know if I had ever heard about the fighting at the Kasserine Pass during WWII.
Yep. Knew all about it.
He asked me if the veteran Iraqi Republican Guards units would give American forces another Kasserine Pass.
I laughed and told him our forces were going to go through the Iraqis like a hot knife through butter.
Our leftist press likes to throw out these superhuman enemy stories when it benefits their political agenda.
Did anybody see them warning us about those superhuman Libyans before Obama and Hillary decided to attack them for Qadaffi’s wealth?
Nope.
Then it was “those bastard Libyans had it coming”.
The American press truly is our enemy.
I think he’s dangerous, but I think it is quite possible he simply doesn’t have the tools required to do serious damage that we (the general population) think he has.
I remember that one of the rationales behind us dropping two bombs on Japan was to show we had more than one. And if we have more than one, who knows how many we have? But the truth is, we used all of them.
I wonder if Kim may not be up to the same sort of thing. Sadly (or maybe happily), we may get to find out.
The only real fear of them is the civilian casualties suffered by South Korea and other regional allies along with the possibility of China entering the conflict. To write these off as propoganda is a mistake. I advocate dealing with the problem before nukes are in their equation but doing so fully aware of the scope.
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