Posted on 08/09/2017 3:04:57 AM PDT by SMGFan
balls and strikes is the only subjective call in baseball, mostly. In the NFL every play ... EVERY play . . . is subjective. It is fake. Live with it. This past year’s Super Bowl was the phoniest game that I have ever seen.
It shouldn’t be a subjective call at all. The fact that it is proves the MLB is fake, live with it. And this past year’s SB was AMAZING. Nothing phony about it, at least if you can be bothered to know anything about football.
Must be a Patriots fan. Typical . . .
Nope. Not a hater, but they’re not my team. Meanwhile I can be bothered to look at the first half and realize that outside of the turn overs the Pats were seriously outplaying the Falcons, the Falcons defense couldn’t get off the field, they let the Pats have drives of 9, 12 and 11 plays in the first half, and by the time Ryan fumbled in the second half the Falcons defense was gassed. People look at the score in the first half and think Atlanta dominated, but if you look at the stats and see NE’s 43 plays and almost 20 minutes of possession, you see exactly why Atlanta lost. Atlanta wasn’t sustaining drives at any point in the game and couldn’t end NE’s drives, they fakes it real good with some big plays and some lucky bounces. But eventually the luck ran and energy ran out. It was a great game, nothing fake about. If Atlanta gets 2 maybe 3 more first downs, or prevents 2 or 3 NE first downs, they win. But they didn’t have it em.
The NFL is fake; deal with it.
That’s really the best you’ve got. Sad. Meanwhile of course you admitted the MLB has subjective calls on every play, you just don’t realize it.
Or I suppose I could descend to your level. You’re fake. Deal with it.
With your Idol worship of the NFL and drooling over their their fake Super Bowls, it is hard to take you seriously. That Super Bowl, and the past 17 or so, were fake as anything.
Really, an Elite QB like Ryan throwing wild passes instead clock management and setting a FG seems legitimate to you. Give me a break. The fix was in.
Oh look insults. You’re so cute.
Ryan’s not elite. And he doesn’t call his own plays.
And really, why would the NFL bother to fix the game? What do they gain from that? And if they really wanted to fix a SB for NE why not the first one against the Giants for 19-0? And with well over 100 people needing to be involved why hasn’t anybody leaked? And really should anybody defending MLB, home of the Black Sox, be calling ANY other sport fixed?
Get over yourself. It was a great SB, and MLB umps suck.
Wait a sec, you think Matt Ryan threw the game? How much would it cost to keep that going?
Always the problem with these idea. How much do you have to bribe a guy who’s being paid $20 million a year to throw his first and probably only shot at a championship? And how could you ever financial justify that? Given how much the league loves parity and “any given Sunday” (including SB Sunday) if they’re fixing games it’s to give the underdog their championship in franchise history, not to give NE their 5th in 15 years.
Kyle Shanahan called those plays.
Shanahan - son of Super Bowl winning Mike Shanahan and on his way to his first head coaching job in San Francisco - fixing a Super Bowl would be a hell of a story.
Why would he do it? How deep into gambling debt could he be and not have Goodell know about it?
Weaver would have been adored by the sabremetrics crowd. Weaver was so far ahead of his time that there are managers in baseball STILL catching up to him.
Martin was a truly terrible manager and an even worse human being who stumbled into some really good teams.
When do you think we’ll reach a tipping point where fans are essentially demanding that a computer call balls and strikes?
It is amazing that for 150 years or so, ballplayers have had to adjust their approach to the most essential part of the game to the whims of some random dude behind the plate.
Some of them deserve criticism in our league. Last night playing senior softball, runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs, I hit a line drive to the 2nd baseman. Ump called the infield fly rule?
Problem for baseball is the fans are so stuck in their ways. They’re a lot like soccer fans in loving the parts of the game that actual hurt it. I’ve seen people right here on FR declare the variable strike zone is part of the cherished tradition of the sport that draws the players in the first place. I thought this change was less than a decade out when Curt Schilling talked about studying tape of the umps, and that was more than 10 years ago. Kind of like with the opera MLB just needs these old farts to hurry up and die already.
Senior softball? Heck yes! Substitute the 2nd baseman for the middle infielder. Line drive to the MI, runner on second holds, the MI intentionally drops the ball (one of my favorite plays if I know the ump isn't going to call the IFR), tags the runner on second, for the first out, steps on second for the second out then throws to first for a triple play.
Your scenario: Line drive to the 2nd baseman, purposely drops ball, tags runner heading for 2nd base and throws to first for a double play.
I've been playing senior softball since 2008 and when available play tournament 60+_ AAA and 65+ AAA tournaments so I've seen every possible scenario and while I can see how you can fault the umpire for that call, his call was right.........
Where are you and where do you play?
Baseball’s problem is that the average fan is 105 years old.
And they hate happiness.
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