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Two screwed up kids and now one is dead and one is going to jail.

I don't know what to think about it but there is plenty of blame to go around.

1 posted on 08/03/2017 12:41:54 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

He should have killed her first.


2 posted on 08/03/2017 12:42:58 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: BBell
there is plenty of blame to go around.

Is there really?

Normally, I'd just blame the kid who killed himself but in today's society, it's always someone else's fault.

3 posted on 08/03/2017 12:47:04 PM PDT by Drew68
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I get the distinct impression that he'd been talking about suicide for a very long time, and perhaps even using it in a manipulative way. I don't agree with what she did, but having someone in your life who is constantly making his despair your problem... it can get to you. You may find yourself thinking "For pete sake, either get over it or die already."

I had a friend in college like this. She hijacked pretty much every conversation to bring it back to her depression, her suicidal thoughts, her, her, her... we would lay awake at night talking about her. Her problems. Her feelings. Her past. Her depression. I got very little sleep. And at first I was very sympathetic. By the end of the year, I was ready to hand her a razor blade. I had to get away from her.

4 posted on 08/03/2017 12:55:38 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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So she’ll be out of jail before age 20, presumably to enjoy living her life for decades and decades?

Hardly seems fair and just, for what she did.


5 posted on 08/03/2017 12:57:45 PM PDT by simpson96
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We need texting control to go with gun control and thought control.


8 posted on 08/03/2017 1:03:30 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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He was messed up. She was messed up. In a year or two, she will get out and be even more messed up after prison and fame for being so cold. The eyes and even the eyebrows worry me. I expect the cold and crazy eyes, but what made her think she needed to do whatever she did to get those fake eyebrows?

9 posted on 08/03/2017 1:06:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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What is missed is that she was in contact with him when he began to commit suicide to the end. she made no effort to notify emergency authorities to stop/save him. This is more than just encouraging him. at that point it was aiding and abetting after a fashion.


11 posted on 08/03/2017 1:14:26 PM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . . .)
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"Cataldo also said Carter's words amounted to free speech protected by the First Amendment."

I agree with that lawyer. I bet that the verdict will likely get shot down on appeal. And I'm not saying that what she did was a good thing, just not manslaughter.

12 posted on 08/03/2017 1:20:35 PM PDT by matthew fuller (God bless America, D.J. Trump, John Wayne, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, and John Moses Browning.)
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She should have become a shrink. Then she could get paid to do the same thing.


13 posted on 08/03/2017 1:23:05 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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Encouraging her boyfriend to commit suicide.

So, how is that much different from assisted suicides and third trimester abortions (or any abortions at all)?

She could easily serve on the democrats’s Obamacare death panels.


19 posted on 08/03/2017 2:25:51 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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This should have been a civil case, not a criminal case.


23 posted on 08/03/2017 3:06:20 PM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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The boy committed suicide. Suicide is defined as the act of taking one’s own life voluntarily and intentionally. No matter what the girl may have said or not said to the boy he is singly responsible for his actions. She bears no legal responsibility whatsoever. To hold her criminally liable to any degree is a very slippery slope on which to tread. This verdict needs to be overturned.


25 posted on 08/03/2017 4:10:07 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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I am disturbed by this outcome.

On the one hand, she definitely deserves to suffer in some fashion for her actions. Civilly perhaps, or something. But criminally? What do decisions like this do to the Law in the long run? Are there Freedom of Speech issues here? Is this the kind of case that proponents of hate speech laws can cite as justification?

On the other hand, the boy’s suicide was due to his own hand. He is/was responsible for his own actions.

I don’t know. Something seems off about this but I can’t really put my finger on why. I just have an overall sense that this doesn’t bode well in some way.


27 posted on 08/03/2017 7:36:40 PM PDT by servo1969
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I see no justice in this at all. He decided to end his life. She didn’t make him do it. He acted of his own volition. This is trampling all over her First Amendment rights. While it was tacky what she said, it wasn’t a legitimate crime. I know Rush used his show awhile back to expose this as well.


29 posted on 08/03/2017 7:49:26 PM PDT by Perhaps Today
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