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Lawyers for Muslim cop who killed unarmed woman call for autopsy to see if victim was on Ambien
Jihad Watch ^ | Jul 22, 2017 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/22/2017 2:31:41 PM PDT by Ray76

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To: Nifster

“Point to where the constitution says a lawyer should make up stories or outright lie in order to defend a client.”

If you believe that any attorney involved in this case has acted unethically or has violated any law during his representation of a client, you should file a complaint with the Minnesota Bar Association and or the district attorney in that jurisdiction.


121 posted on 07/22/2017 8:49:36 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: chaosagent

The following statement allows some wiggle room:

“There’s still a lot about the lead-up to the shooting that’s unknown, said Jenny Singleton of the Police Conduct Oversight Commission. But it appears to her that the cameras should have been turned on.”

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/18/537861230/minneapolis-officers-failed-to-turn-on-body-cameras-before-fatal-shooting


122 posted on 07/22/2017 8:51:53 PM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

The Assistance of Counsel Clause in the Sixth Amendment is rather clear.


123 posted on 07/22/2017 8:55:00 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

Non answer


124 posted on 07/22/2017 8:55:19 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds will parents sometimes foster first but not always)
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To: flamberge

I agree with you that he won’t be prosecuted for what he did.


125 posted on 07/22/2017 8:57:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: raybbr
"Yes, where’s the partner’s statement about what happened?"

Why did the chief of police step down?

Did the mayor fire her, or was she handed her hat?

Nothing about this story makes sense.

Then again, I can't imagine a scenario that *would* make sense.

126 posted on 07/22/2017 9:02:12 PM PDT by boop (I'd wish you luck, but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you had it!)
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To: Timpanagos1
My guess is that Noor will be charged and prosecuted and that case will be before a Minnesota state court and not a Sharia court.

And if the defense is at all competent, they will try to get a number of Muslims on the jury. Noor will certainly walk in that event.

But the Minneapolis political authorities badly want this case to go away. The longer the prosecution takes to make the indictment, the better the chances that will happen.

How long do you think that witness to the event will last before he is threatened by local Muslims and clams up. Or is killed by a "lone-wolf" assassin? Or by another police officer while "being uncooperative" and "assaulting an officer"?

I would like to believe your assessment that a careful DA is making a diligent case for prosecution and that will take more time that people would like.

But I have seen too many inflammatory political cases where the prosecution drags their feet, places a gag order on the whole proceeding, and then quietly plea-bargains an abominable felony down to a minor misdemeanor with trivial penalties after enough time has passed for things to quiet down.

The Muslim rape case in Idaho stands as a recent example.

This case has all the earmarks to be another example. The prosecution had better move quickly and carefully.

127 posted on 07/22/2017 9:12:19 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: flamberge

About the moslem loving mayor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhhlYAsPiH8


128 posted on 07/22/2017 9:17:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Ray76

And here we go, more of the narrative that Muslims are a oppressed people and it is always the white person’s fault, no matter how outlandish of a claim is made such as someone having Ambien in their system.

Blame the victim is exactly what liberals do to advance the narrative.

JoMa


129 posted on 07/22/2017 9:59:38 PM PDT by joma89
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To: Tennessee Nana

My bad. “Pop into view” would probably have been better.


130 posted on 07/22/2017 10:12:59 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Government should be done to cattle and not human beings." - John Milius)
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To: metmom

When bad things happen it’s very rarely because one thing went wrong. Tragedies generally are the result of multiple small failures adding up, many/most of them inconsequential in themselves.

Never put something down to ill intent when mere stupidity will do.


131 posted on 07/22/2017 10:18:53 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Government should be done to cattle and not human beings." - John Milius)
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To: Ray76

They are going for mental impairment of the woman.

Many many women are on antidepressants and they do affect behavior.

However, the other officers statements negate that this was going on in this particular case.


132 posted on 07/22/2017 10:31:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Timpanagos1

I was in law enforcement and heard “innocent” subjects say things like, “She had it coming”, or “I had no choice but to do it”. LEOs learned “workarounds”, but thousands had skated murder charges—only to do it again—armed with Miranda.


133 posted on 07/23/2017 3:47:26 AM PDT by Does so ("PARIS" is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: Does so

Someone is doing bad police work if thousands of murder cases have been tossed because arresting officers are not mirandazing people that are arrested for murder.


134 posted on 07/23/2017 10:26:16 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1
The "workaround" for police detectives is NOT to inform of Miranda Rights. Without any legal basis for an arrest, the subject is free to go.

While chatting with the "person of interest", detectives can witness a guilty outburst. At that point, they can THEN make an arrest, and THEN inform the subject of Miranda.

Cases won by prosecutors are today being appealed citing Miranda—going back decades. That the NYTs writes glowingly of Miranda "Rights" should be a clue. "Police are chipping away at Miranda"

American Spectator:

"After the Supreme Court handed down Miranda, hundreds of criminals had their convictions overturned because of retroactive application. Many were admitted murderers. Thousands of other confessions have since been thrown out before they ever reached the courtroom.

All this turned loose a lot of potentially dangerous people."

135 posted on 07/23/2017 6:13:18 PM PDT by Does so ("PARIS" is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: raybbr
Where is any statement from cop who almost got shot?

He's busy. He's over at Miracle Ear trying to get his hearing restored.

136 posted on 07/23/2017 6:20:27 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Does so

It is best to never talk to the police.

With that, you will never knowingly, unknowingly, intentionally or unintentionally incriminate yourself for a crime that you may have committed or a crime that you had nothing to do with.

I have never spoken to a person that was arrested and not read their Miranda Rights or made aware of their rights under Miranda.


137 posted on 07/23/2017 6:51:53 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

LOL it certainly is: You enjoy the right to have the assistance of counsel for defense. Until 1963, however, everyone interpreted that to mean you could do so if you so chose. But even giving that away - I think the idea that lawyers should defend anyone, by any means, destroying any reputation, by manipulating emotion rather than sticking to fact, by lying, by coaching witnesses, etc., is odious. Same goes for DA’s.


138 posted on 07/23/2017 8:17:37 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

“I think the idea that lawyers should defend anyone, by any means, destroying any reputation, by manipulating emotion rather than sticking to fact, by lying, by coaching witnesses, etc., is odious. Same goes for DA’s.”

Both the prosecution and defense must act in an ethical and legal manner, but everyone, no matter how horrific the crime they may be accused, has the right to a defense.


139 posted on 07/23/2017 8:50:23 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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