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‘Very credible’ study on $15 minimum wage has bad news for liberals
bangor daily news ^ | 25 Jun 2017 | Max Ehrenfreund,

Posted on 06/26/2017 6:26:49 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

When Seattle officials voted three years ago to incrementally boost the city’s minimum wage up to $15 per hour, they hoped to improve the lives of low-income workers. Yet according to a major new study that could force economists to reassess past research on the issue, the hike has had the opposite effect.

The costs to low-wage workers in Seattle outweighed the benefits by a ratio of three to one, according to the study, conducted by a group of economists at the University of Washington who were commissioned by the city.

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"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." G. Santayana

they hoped to improve
Wish and hope in one hand and...

1 posted on 06/26/2017 6:26:49 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They might conclude from studies what someone with basic reasoning skills would conclude in a couple of minutes. Or they could just ignore the studies, or cherry-pick the ones they like.


2 posted on 06/26/2017 6:30:43 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This will change nothing.
Facts and figures are superfluous.
The uneducated know nothing of economics and couldn’t care less.
All the liberals want is their votes, and that is bought with pipe dreams and promises..........


3 posted on 06/26/2017 6:31:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Unless you eat The Bread of Life, you are toast!.......................)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

1. the government does not have the right to set a minimum or maximum hourly rate.
2. if it is raised, it will soon not be enough, and the left will agitate to raise it again, and that will not be enough, and they will push to raise it again, ..... repeat until doomsday.


4 posted on 06/26/2017 6:31:17 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT
we were waiting,
we were watching,
yes, we knew it all time.
5 posted on 06/26/2017 6:39:44 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: I want the USA back

“...if it is raised, it will soon not be enough, and the left will agitate to raise it again, and that will not be enough, and they will push to raise it again, ..... repeat until doomsday.”

If the leftist modus operandi is at work, we’ll soon hear how $15 per hour is too low. The plan only starts working at $50 per hour.


6 posted on 06/26/2017 6:41:34 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: I want the USA back

Our HOA which runs three restaurants and other club facilities here in AZ has cut hours and reduced employment as a result of the new minimum wage law. That and Obama care have cost a lot jobs.


7 posted on 06/26/2017 6:45:18 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." G. Santayana

With all the revision of history taking place I wonder how valid that quote is today.

8 posted on 06/26/2017 6:48:25 AM PDT by monocle
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Every discussion about raising minimum wage never mentions the obvious impact:

Existing Pay Structure:
Fry-dropper $10/hr
Shift Manager $15/hr

Proposed Pay Structure:
Fry-dropper $15/hr
Shift Manager quits or demands raise

Lesson: All positions would have to increase pay. Duh!


9 posted on 06/26/2017 6:48:36 AM PDT by Moe-Patrick (Adorable Deplorable - so says my husband!)
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To: BlueStateRightist

“The plan only starts working at $50 per hour.”

To really pep it up and truly jump start the liberal economy right into Utopia, just add a zero ...


10 posted on 06/26/2017 6:49:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: monocle

I think I’ve heard that quote attributed to at least a dozen different people.......


11 posted on 06/26/2017 6:51:35 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: I want the USA back

That’s part of it. You may have forgot to put in when the price of a cup of coffee goes up 300% to cover the costs of HR, and the public doesn’t kick down your door to buy it, those high paid minimum wage employees become a detriment and a bad mark on your bottom line. Lay offs, cut hours, store hour cutbacks, all add up to taking that inflated wage back to where it was. But it also kills the sales. More of the above.

rwood


12 posted on 06/26/2017 6:53:10 AM PDT by Redwood71
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"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." G. Santayana

Cool music to accompany History repeating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8

13 posted on 06/26/2017 6:53:32 AM PDT by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A report pointing out some basic economic reality? Time to call the authors racist and sexist.


14 posted on 06/26/2017 6:54:43 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Oldexpat

You said:Our HOA which runs three restaurants and other club facilities here in AZ has cut hours and reduced employment as a result of the new minimum wage law. That and Obama care have cost a lot jobs.

Do HOA member dues subsidize the restaurants?


15 posted on 06/26/2017 6:55:37 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
conducted by a group of economists at the University of Washington who were commissioned by the city.

A tip of the hat to a cross state rival. lol

That was the council's mistake, should've gone to Cal Berkeley for their study.

16 posted on 06/26/2017 6:59:44 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Many restaurants here in Tucson have closed due to our increased minimum wage. My favorite NY deli was one of them.


17 posted on 06/26/2017 7:01:23 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Moe-Patrick
"Lesson: All positions would have to increase pay. Duh!"

Funny how that works...


18 posted on 06/26/2017 7:03:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: DUMBGRUNT
This is only 'bad news for liberals', if you fall into the trap of believing this has anything to do with minimum wage workers.

Union workers peg their wage scales (in their contracts) to the minimum wage. I'm sure they are VERY happy in areas where the minimum wage has gone up...

...and couldn't care less about the poor saps who have lost their jobs.

19 posted on 06/26/2017 7:05:49 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Hardly. Facts - things like the laws of economics - have never mattered to liberals. Their reality, like their gender, is what they want it to be at any given moment.

Witness the study from Sweden that demonstrates conclusively that the manufacturing of massive lithium-ion batteries (like the ones used in Teslas) produces more carbon dioxide than the average conventional automobile produces in eight years. Another independent study done by an energy firm in Texas demonstrates that, not only has fracking had NO impact whatsoever on drinking water, fracking has actually reduced carbon dioxide emissions. You’ll never hear a peep from the lamestream media on either story, but they’ll continue to bang the global warming/climate change drum until we’re deaf.


20 posted on 06/26/2017 7:08:18 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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