Posted on 05/07/2017 8:18:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Guy Benson at Townhall puts the lie to Democrat accusations that the GOP "repeal and replace" bill will kill Americans. It seems that Obamacare has already done that.
Quoting Oren Cass over at National Review, it turns out that fewer people – not more people – had health insurance after Obamacare. The only increase in "coverage" was Medicaid, but, sadly, it turns out that Medicaid kills people. It's better to have no medical insurance at all.
This public-versus-private distinction is crucial, because studies of Medicaid do not find the same positive effects on mortality sometimes seen in studies of private insurance. Researchers have found that Medicaid patients with a variety of conditions and medical needs experience worse outcomes than similar uninsured patients. ...
Public-health data from the Centers for Disease Control confirm... [that h]ad mortality continued to decline during ACA implementation in 2014 and 2015 at the same rate as during the 2000-13 period, 80,000 fewer Americans would have died in 2015 alone.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
i think that all of 0bamacare should have been repealed. We should just go back to private insurance.
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While traveling in Ireland, I asked my driver and guide about their health-care. Both have private insurance. They said it was a necessity because the free health care would kill them. Most who could afford private purchased it
“i think that all of 0bamacare should have been repealed. We should just go back to private insurance.”
That’s the plan, though it will take time. IMHO the content of the House bill just passed is really not that important, nor will be the content of the Senate bill. The rubber hits the road in the reconciliation process. Then, another (or more) bill and some EO’s will be required to unwrap the tentacles of Obamacare.
Although I hate Obamacare, this article is not correct. People on Medicaid will have a higher mortality rate than the normal population due to lifestyle issues. Those issues are: obesity, drug abuse, trauma, tobacco use, alcohol abuse.
It is not the responsibility of the healthcare system to prevent these lifestyle choices. It is up to the individual.
But wait a sec - maybe reducing the number of peasants to deal with is part of the goal. Cull the herd. It’s people USING insurance that needs to reduced, then you can claim “more” people have it and that your socialized medicine Trojan horse is a glorious success.
Did all of that abuse suddenly change in 2015?
From the article:
Public-health data from the Centers for Disease Control confirm... [that h]ad mortality continued to decline during ACA implementation in 2014 and 2015 at the same rate as during the 2000-13 period, 80,000 fewer Americans would have died in 2015 alone.
Did all of that abuse suddenly change in 2015?
Good question. As a nurse who has worked for 30 years ( nearing retirement) this population of people in my opinion has increased. You will not believe how many people who are in the hospital are on Medicaid in my area. The statistics in my state show the majority of children are on Medicaid, which means the parents are on Medicaid , too. The problem lists of these patients are identical , all problems due to lifestyle choices. The patients are mainly white. I think the downturns in the economy has made an ever increasing white underclass of people. There was a book , and I cannot remember the tittle, which is about this issue. The book discusses the fact that blue collar, middle income jobs are disappearing ( in my area that would be logging) and the white middle class is sinking. Those people who are not in the labor force are now involved with drugs, etc.
The problem has been increasing since the early 2000s
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I have family members on MediCal. California’s Medicaid. It has been my observation that they get great care. They go, or take their kids, to the doctor if they have a fricken sniffle. Recently my cousins daughter, who is a 5 foot 300 pounder, was at the hospital in the middle of the night because her back hurt. Was a pulled muscle. Most people don’t use that kind of care with private insurance. They tough it out.
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Exactly- many people overlook this fact- also of fact is the fact that many folks lost their jobs under obama- and many turned to drugs and alcohol as a coping mechanism- which lead to more deaths and serious health conditions- After years of living homeless, looking for jobs but not finding any- many folks died- homeless- drug addicted- too ka few years of being under the abysmal obama regime to happen- but it happened-
I would also like to add heroin came along in 2015 after there was a crackdown on oxycontin
Yes, the opioid epidemic could be a cause.
No offense to you or your extended family but they go because they know who doesn't pay for that care (them). We've almost always has "charitable care" or public health but this has gone too far. People like me (and you too I would wager) cannot afford to continue to pay for our own care and theirs too.
The bank is busted.
Excellent source for future reference.
Thanks for posting!
Don't forget infant mortality rate as a statistic. These numbers (mostly innercity) skew statistics and are always used by the left to shout how bad American "healthcare"is. It drives me crazy.
Government has no business in healthcare of any sort except our Veterans and helpless and infirm as the safety net. It should not consume a great portion of GDP and more than half the population. It is impossible to sustain in any way.
I believe we have a personal obligation to help those in need, but the federal government is never the proper vehicle. For the government to help someone it must first hurt someone else. Also, when it is voluntary, we can stop supporting programs that don’t work. Of course, just my opinion, with which most disagree, including my wife.
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