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Windows 10 S forces Bing, Edge on your kids. If you don't like it, get Win10 Pro – Microsoft
The Register ^ | May 4, 2017 | Iain Thomson

Posted on 05/04/2017 3:08:35 PM PDT by dayglored

After Tuesday's big launch of Windows 10 S, it emerged the software will force people to use Edge and Bing. How can that be?

The supposedly streamlined operating system aimed at kids and their teachers will only run apps from Microsoft's official Windows 10 S software store. Right now, there are no third-party browsers available from its shelves. That leaves users with the bundled Edge browser and Bing for web search.

You can't change the search engine from Bing, and, for now, you can't get another browser besides Edge. Even if you could get another browser, Edge will override all the time, such as whenever you click on a HTML document. In an FAQ, Microsoft explained:

Microsoft Edge is the default web browser on Microsoft 10 S. You are able to download another browser that might be available from the Windows Store, but Microsoft Edge will remain the default if, for example, you open an .htm file. Additionally, the default search provider in Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer cannot be changed.

You can, if you're desperate, bookmark Google or Duck Duck Go, or similar, and use that button to look stuff up. If you don't like any of this, then don't use Windows 10 S – use Windows 10 Pro instead. That's Microsoft's official line.

"We believe Microsoft Edge and Bing provide the best and most secure experience on Windows 10 S," a Microsoft spokesperson told The Register on Thursday.

"Customers are in control of their Windows experience and users who prefer to install apps from outside the Windows Store and modify default settings can choose Windows 10 Pro instead."

So far, neither Firefox, Chrome, nor any other browsers, have been either submitted or accepted into Microsoft's latest souk, so they are not available to Windows 10 S systems. We imagine Mozilla, Google and other developers will eventually get round to offering their apps in the store.

That's assuming they're allowed: it rather sounds as though Redmond would prefer it if you just sodded off to Windows 10 Pro if you want to use, say, Chrome, leaving Windows 10 S free of any annoying rivals and other riffraff.

Welcome to Microsoft streamlined: run what we tell you, or cough up an extra $49 for Windows 10 Pro and run what you want on your own computer. A fifty-buck Google and Chrome tax, if you will. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: bing; edge; freedomofchoice; microsoft; privacy; win10pro; windows10; windows10s; windowspinglist
Interesting. And this is the version of Windows that will be used by the kids in schools? Get 'em used to Bing and Edge at an early age, and they'll stick with those.

The folks at Microsoft are finally learning the lessons of the past 3 decades of computer marketing...

1 posted on 05/04/2017 3:08:35 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ...
Windows 10 S... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 05/04/2017 3:09:34 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Just go to APPLE, and forget all about Microsoft!


3 posted on 05/04/2017 3:11:24 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: EnglishOnly
> Just go to APPLE, and forget all about Microsoft!

Unfortunately, Apple has at times been just as restrictive of user choices. They're generally better now, but there have been times...

4 posted on 05/04/2017 3:12:53 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Edge is a deal-breaker for me. I think that IE-4 was more robust and efficient. If Edge was my “only” choice I would choose no.


5 posted on 05/04/2017 3:21:26 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: dayglored

The saying “Use Edge and go to Bing will never catch on. Microsoft knows this and that is why they blocked their competitors.
Windows is Windows but Microsoft charges more or less for slight variations.


6 posted on 05/04/2017 3:27:14 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: dayglored

I remember the days when Microsoft Windows bundled Internet Explorer essentially making it the only browser allowed to operate with its computer software. Other browsers could be loaded via a purchased disc or over very slow modems. They were sued for antitrust violations and finally settled without MS being broken up as a monopoly. I guess MS hasn’t learned the lessons of those early days of the internet.


7 posted on 05/04/2017 3:30:00 PM PDT by CedarDave (Proud member of Hillary's Deplorables class of 2016.)
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To: dayglored

the lessons of the past 3 decades of computer marketing...
“Don’t sell the product, sell the users- their marketable information.”

IHa! I was re-watching one of the Matrix movies and was viewing the Matrix as a construct of marketeers gone wild.


8 posted on 05/04/2017 3:34:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: dayglored
If you don't like it, get Puppy on a thumb drive and bring your own operating system.
9 posted on 05/04/2017 3:36:58 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: dayglored

Schools are ditching Windows for Chromebooks and Chromeboxes.

This technician doesn’t run anything newer than Windows 7 on my hardware.


10 posted on 05/04/2017 4:03:03 PM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: CedarDave
Other browsers could be loaded via a purchased disc or over very slow modems.

In those days, you could spit in any general direction and have a 30% chance of hitting a free AOL CD including the AOL browser. I obtained my first copy of IE at Super Bowl XXX. Version 2.0 was included with my seat cushion, no joke! I still have the seat cushion.
11 posted on 05/04/2017 4:27:24 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: EnglishOnly

>Just go to APPLE, and forget all about Microsoft!

Apple, Microshaft and islam all have something in common...brainwashing, sloth and bad choices.


12 posted on 05/04/2017 4:32:33 PM PDT by soycd
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> Apple, Microshaft and islam all have something in common...brainwashing, sloth and bad choices.

So for your computing/smartphone needs, do you prefer:

Serious question... what do you use, that meets your standards for No brainwashing, No slot, and Good choices?
13 posted on 05/04/2017 4:38:50 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Dr. Sivana
> ...you could spit in any general direction and have a 30% chance of hitting a free AOL CD...

"...at one point, half of the CDs manufactured worldwide had AOL logos on them...."

> ...Version 2.0 was included with my seat cushion, no joke! I still have the seat cushion.

That's just too weird.

14 posted on 05/04/2017 4:47:32 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I’be learned my lesson well. No more Microsoft. And if apple keeps its attitude no more of them either.


15 posted on 05/04/2017 5:14:43 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: dayglored

Or install a Linux system and avoid Microslave altogether. Some of the Linux systems now are easy to install and offer everything that most people want in computing.


16 posted on 05/04/2017 5:27:13 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: dayglored

Edge is the worst...Worst...WOrst...WORst...WORSt...WORST browser ever, ever, ever.


17 posted on 05/04/2017 6:14:35 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: dayglored

Microsoft’s answer to the cloud.

I don’t have the Windows Store but then again universal apps are way overrated.

They’re good on tablets but suck on the desktop where 32 bit desktop apps are far superior.


18 posted on 05/05/2017 7:19:16 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: dayglored

19 posted on 05/05/2017 7:21:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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