Just show some of the daily crime news from around the country to these people, and ask what should be done with the perps. Talk to ‘em and turn ‘em loose?
They live on fantasy island.
“I support prison abolition because black people are 8X more likely to commit violent crimes than any other race, and it’s not fair that whitey puts us in prison when we’re caught.” There, I answered it for everyone.
May the ones pushing for this be the first to bear the brunt if prison abolition were put into play.
I support the abolition of prisons because killed while resisting arrest would free up the courts and save money which could be used to build the wall and buy ammo.
They only want to abolish prisons because whites are not the majority population ...
The worse criminals are out of prison and roam free with pay. CONgre$$. It is becoming more apparent every day.
“I do not think that illegal plunder, such as theft or swindling — which the penal code defines, anticipates, and punishes — can be called socialism. It is not this kind of plunder that systematically threatens the foundations of society.”
“The Law” - Bastiat
Ticking...
...debt bomb
“Socialism Is Legal Plunder” - “The Law”
I think each PAC member should accept a parolee to come live with them in order to get the full experience. And in order to show their true commitment, we’re not talking about non-violent criminals but rather the ones with real impressive creds and a nice long rap sheet. Let’s test the courage of their convictions (npi).
It's not that they're stupid. It's that they don't consider offenses against white people to be things that deserve punishment.
That lovely cocktail of toxic naïveté and youthful arrogance. Makes me wanna puke.
> The collective is comprised of about 11 members
They don’t even know their membership.
Conklin: Well, why don’t you go upstairs and book a conference room. Maybe you can talk him to death.
Bourne Identity
Because crime only happens everywhere else - never affected me. In fact I hate the Black Community so much lets just send them back to form an Army or Government of Thieves to Rule.
You can. But it is a very permanent fix.
I’m against sending a lot of people to prison. I say,”Three Strikes, You’re Out,” should be, “Three strikes, you’re shot.”
If we give prompt capital punishment to recidivists, the drop in crime rates and prison populations would be astoudning. I for one am glad to see even ultra-leftists begin to understand the problem.
Put some of these felons under house arrest in the homes of those advocating “prison abolition”. The movement will disappear real fast!
“I support prison abolition because…”
I support prison abolition because there is no mention of incarceration as a means of punishment in Torah.
According to the Law, there are only four punishments: economic retribution (paying damages at 120%), physical retribution (an eye for an eye, etc.), exile ("cut off from one's people"), and execution. There might be temporary jail while waiting for trial and judgment, but after conviction, the appropriate punishment is to be meted out swiftly.
Incarceration as a means of punishment is a modern invention; it was hoped that people who were incarcerated would consider the heinous nature of their crimes, repent, and convert their lives so that they would engage in non-criminal activity, which is why prisons were called "penitentiaries," places where criminals would become penitent and repent.
It didn't work, and it doesn't work. Violent criminals should be exiled or executed, and non-violent criminals should be made to pay what they have stolen.
That is why I would support prison abolition. Of course, that isn't what the "board" meant when they started this; they would prefer to fix "dumb" (throwing millions of people into prison) with "dumber" (letting criminals prey on society).
Please consider an alternate view. Has it occurred to you that there were no penitentiaries in Biblical Israel?
Why Have Penitentiaries Anyway?
Most people realize that the court and penal systems in North America are seriously broken and must be fixed, yet contemplating doing away with penitentiaries sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? Barely 200 years ago, an experiment began which has cost us untold billions of dollars. Just last year, this experiment resulted in 1.4 million adults incarcerated in federal and state penitentiaries (a figure which has quadrupled since 1980) at a cost of nearly $40,000 each.
As Alan Elsner pointed out in a recent Washington Post article, 2.2 million people are engaged in catching criminals and putting and keeping them behind bars, and “corrections” has become one of the largest sectors of the U.S. economy, employing more people than the combined workforces of General Motors, Ford and Wal-Mart, the three biggest corporate employers in the country. In many “prison town” counties, the number one employer is the Department of Corrections. This is a staggering expense of over $50 billion, an amount that increases by additional billions for each year of the last 25 years of explosive prison growth. As the prison population ages, the taxpayer is paying for medical procedures he can’t afford for himself, and the victims of these criminals realize no compensation at all.
Few realize that the first penitentiary in the world was founded in Philadelphia in 1792. Jails had always existed for the purpose of holding the accused until trial, after which the guilty would pay a fine, make restitution to the victim, be banished, be executed, etc. However, the concept of warehousing criminals to cause them to repent was entirely new.
Imagine a criminal justice system where penitentiaries didn’t even exist, but where a person paid for his crimes rather than having society pay to keep him incarcerated.
One such nation existed. If you stole someone’s property, say a sheep, and were caught with the animal in your possession, you repaid the victim with two sheep, but you didn’t go to a penitentiary. The victim also got a financial settlement, satisfying the desire for victim restitution in our time.
If you sold the stolen sheep, thereby being more involved in the crime, you paid the victim four sheep.
If you committed a capital crime, (murder, rape, kidnapping, etc.) you paid with your life, but you didn’t go to a penitentiary. Such facilities didn’t exist in this nation. They were not needed.
Such a system would completely do away with our newest growth industry, penitentiaries, and restore the victim of crime financially.
I’m not going to tell you where I got the idea for this system, but it’s from a reliable source. Of course, it will never happen here because a powerful lobby has grown up around the prison system that will fight hard to protect the status quo. Correction officers have formed powerful labor unions, and their financial contributions to our politicians will easily outweigh the will of the people. I know, I know, I’m such a young man to be so cynical.
Time to bring back the whipping post for small crimes.
In the olden days some criminals was whipped. Then some busybody old women demanded they be treated as common criminals with prison time.
Robbers were given prison time. Murderers were hanged.
Back in 1957, Micky Rooney played the part of Babyface Nelson.
In a TV spoof of the show it was shown how “soft” prison time had become even then when the warden was on his knees giving shoe shines to the prisoners.