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1 posted on 03/24/2017 9:56:23 PM PDT by WhatNot
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Bet you a dollar Ryan promised to repeal Obamacare when he became speaker. He lied. Freedom caucus is right here. They didn’t support a crap sandwich of a bill that was written in back rooms to please the insurance lobby. Why wasnt the caucus invited to help craft the bill? It was a Rovian sham.


2 posted on 03/24/2017 9:59:42 PM PDT by ilgipper
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This is not conservatives. It’s the RINOs.

And I’m starting to suspect the real design they are trying to accomplish is avoiding the defunding of Planned Parenthood.

It appears to me that the fake conservatives, who are Judas sellouts, are trying to protect and preserve abortion funding.

They’ve got their 30 pieces of silver from Soros, and they intend to protect abortion at any cost.

They are only against abortion when their vote carries no weight whatsoever.


4 posted on 03/24/2017 10:04:27 PM PDT by unlearner (So much winning !!! It's Trumptastic!)
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Blow it out your whatever.
If everybody would throw out their weasels we would not be rearranging Obamacare and thinking that was winning.
Ryancare was not repeal, it was rearranging a bad law to be worse.


5 posted on 03/24/2017 10:05:07 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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They all make me puke. It’s a big show to impress their special interests. As long as they get a atta boy from mark levin or A liberty score or whatever ridiculous fake grades. You can’t govern by being a purist.

Wait til the infrastructure bill comes along. Gonna be a nightmare. Then when immigration and the wall comes up all the squishes will be wailing. It’s a rigged system. All one big uniparty each playing their role.


6 posted on 03/24/2017 10:05:53 PM PDT by nhwingut (Trump Pence 16 - Blow Up DC)
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The really dangerous part of his this went down is the possibility that Trump might go for single payer with the dems now that the FC has proven their inability to compromise. Trump’s not an idolog and life expectancy is dropping due to Obamacare. People are dying and Trump far more likely to cut a deal with the dems to stop the bleeding than to try and cut a deal with people with a proven track record of not cutting deals.

Don’t get me wrong, single payer is a disaster, but at this point it’s a better choice than Obamacare.


7 posted on 03/24/2017 10:07:30 PM PDT by RedWulf (#purge the nevertrumpers)
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The freedom caucus is bankrolled by the open borders Kock brothers who are social liberal libertarians. Not conservatives. They are nevertrumpers to the core and will have to be destroyed.

Their next target will be the border wall. They will say it’s too expensive, etc. The Kock brothers profit from cheap Mexican labor.


9 posted on 03/24/2017 10:09:11 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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Who does Trump think lost today? Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi

How does Trump feel about what happened today? Perhaps the best outcome.

Click the links and listen to the whole statement. The Freedom Caucus was spot on, and we'll get a better deal out of this. I'm immensely proud of them.


10 posted on 03/24/2017 10:09:58 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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No, it was a crooked, crony crap sandwich of a bill written behind closed doors for the benefit of the insurance companies. It is probably worse than Obamacare (which also isn’t “conservative”, if you’re wondering).


11 posted on 03/24/2017 10:10:22 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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Freedom Caucus did Trump a favor.
He may not appreciate it right now, but if he’s smart (and I think he is) he will come to understand this.


12 posted on 03/24/2017 10:11:06 PM PDT by Lorianne
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Perhaps he was not as honest about his conservatism during his nomination for Speaker.


13 posted on 03/24/2017 10:12:08 PM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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Why can’t all Republicans of whatever stripe get together and come with something everyone can agree on, take advantage of Trump in the White House and get legislation passed?


14 posted on 03/24/2017 10:12:10 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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There’s nothing wrong with what they did.

The person who failed is Paul Ryan. He obviously cannot lead the House.

It’s time for him to say goodbye.


15 posted on 03/24/2017 10:13:52 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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So then the Freedom Caucus was wrong to vote for Ryan back then and correct to vote against Ryan's RINOcare today.

Pretty simple.

Hope that clarifies it for you.

20 posted on 03/24/2017 10:18:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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According to Louis Gohmert, there were as many moderates who would have voted against the bill because it was too conservative as there were FC members who thought it was too liberal.

so point your pointy little head in some other direction.


22 posted on 03/24/2017 10:20:39 PM PDT by moonhawk (My Basket of Deplorable is Irredeemably mired in the Swamp of Crazy.)
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This must be the historical revisionism thread.

The Freedom Caucus ousted Boehner.
The Freedom Caucus did not endorse Ryan for Speaker.
The Freedom Caucus opposed the fake Obamacare Repeal.


24 posted on 03/24/2017 10:20:57 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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This bill was crap and it’s good it went down.

The bill that will get passed and signed eventually will be much better.


29 posted on 03/24/2017 10:26:03 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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If they voted for him for Speaker, you have to ask yourself what did he do to make them change their minds about him, or any legislation he pushed.


34 posted on 03/24/2017 10:41:09 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Repeal Obamacare are in its entirety, then start creating a real working solution.


51 posted on 03/24/2017 11:42:23 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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Your hyperventilating plays right into the hands of our real enemies.

Besides, how is passing a bill that is opposed by at least 3/4 of the people a good idea, politically speaking?

All, or almost all of us here, are on basically the same side. It’s time to get to work, and revisit this later, not bash each other’s heads in.


56 posted on 03/25/2017 12:10:13 AM PDT by Paul R.
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Is the Constitution a thing, or is it not?

Making sausage may not be pretty to watch, but there is no law saying sausage must be made.


60 posted on 03/25/2017 12:19:20 AM PDT by Yaelle
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