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[DiogenesLamp]

Our Shermans were no match for the Panzers, but we could throw ten into the fight against every Panzer, so we eventually overwhelmed them with quantity.

But imagine what would have happened had all those Panzers on the Eastern front been on the Western Front? All those soldiers on the Eastern Front on the Western front?

The point here is that without Russia soaking up the most destruction, we would have faced perhaps ten times the number of forces and equipment we did face.

This is not to disparage our GIs, who fought bravely and well. They should be a source of great pride for every American.

Agreed. I have personally known scads of World War II Vetrans, some of which were under Patton's command, others who stormed the beaches on D-Day, (Others in the Pacific theater) but let us be honest with ourselves. Without the attrition the Germans suffered in their fight with Russia, we would have faced vastly greater numbers of forces than what we did face.

[DiogenesLamp]

If Japan hadn’t been a military on the march in Asia, and Germany had done something like sinking a big passenger ship full of civilians like they did in 1915, we likely could have done a full blown Patton/Puller on Germany without helping the soviets so they could help us.

Without the Soviets, we would have been massacred.

The war in the Pacific was fought against soldiers that were suicidal in their attacks. The US had battles won and still lost men to those guys that refused to surrender.

The US pretty much fought the war in the Pacific by ourselves, but Japan was more of a Naval power than it was a land power. Germany was the strongest land power at the time, and also a pretty serious naval power. We never could have landed troops in Europe were it not for the fact that so much of the German forces were tied up on their Eastern front. Had they been able to throw their full force at us on the Western front, we could not have established a beach head.

IMO, without Japan Hitler wouldn’t have been as bold, or he would have been smashed much sooner.

Yes, if you include the Russians. No, if you exclude the Russians. If we could take the forces we threw into the Pacific and use them to invade Europe, we could have beaten him much sooner, provided the Russian attrition of the German army was maintained. Without that attrition of German forces by the Russians, Hitler would have kicked our @$$, at least until we developed the Atom bomb.