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Astronomy Picture of the Day - A Crumbling Layered Butte on Mars
NASA ^ | 10/02/2016 | (see image credits)

Posted on 10/05/2016 6:02:30 AM PDT by ThomasMore

Astronomy Picture of the Day

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2016 October 5
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A Crumbling Layered Butte on Mars
Image Credit: NASA, JPL-Caltech, MSSS; Compilation & Processing : Kenneth Kremer, Marco Di Lorenzo

Explanation: What is this unusual mound on Mars? NASA's Curiosity rover rolling across Mars has come across a group of these mounds that NASA has labelled Murray Buttes. Pictured is a recently assembled mosaic image of one of the last of the buttes passed by Curiosity on its way up Mt. Sharp -- but also one of the most visually spectacular. Ancient water-deposited layers in relatively dense -- but now dried-out and crumbling -- windblown sandstone tops the 15-meter tall structure. The rim of Gale crater is visible in the distance. Curiosity continues to accumulate clues about how Mars changed from a planet with areas wet and hospitable to microbial life to the dry, barren, rusted landscape seen today.

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TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: mars; nasa
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I wonder how much water was originally on Mars?
1 posted on 10/05/2016 6:02:30 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: .30Carbine; 1FreeAmerican; 21stCenturion; 21twelve; 2nd Amendment; 4everontheRight; ...
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2 posted on 10/05/2016 6:03:21 AM PDT by ThomasMore (We're edging closer and closer to a civil war! Blame the politicians!)
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To: ThomasMore

Hillary has one of these, too.

That explains the big oven mitt jackets.


3 posted on 10/05/2016 6:04:13 AM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: ThomasMore

Billions and billions of billions and billions..................


4 posted on 10/05/2016 6:06:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: ThomasMore

Sort of a “what if” but still.

What if? As I understand it, Mars once had a molten, liquid core that cooled and solidified. Once that happened the Magnetosphere it had was lost. Once that was lost the atmosphere it protected was lost, boiled off to space. Once the atmosphere boiled off the water boiled off into space as well. How long would that take? Just a few years?

So, all that atmosphere goes into space. Physics being what it is these things would slowly accumulate into lower entropy regions it would seem to me. Is there a nearby gravity sink with a lower entropy, more hospitable home to these elements that had previously been on Mars? UH, yeah.

Could that explain why our sea levels rose 300 to 400 feet some 15,000 years or so ago? At least in part? Could it really have been a “Martian Rain” for 40 days and nights?

I am certain a whole lot of folks smarter than me will point out at least one hundred reasons it cannot be so. I want to hear every one of them. You see, Real Science is NEVER settled.


5 posted on 10/05/2016 6:13:33 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ThomasMore

That sure looks sedimentary to me!


6 posted on 10/05/2016 6:14:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: ThomasMore

This would make a winning design for a monument to the Obama presidency.


7 posted on 10/05/2016 6:18:15 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: ThomasMore

Fish fossils? Oh wow! We gotta get there and find out.


8 posted on 10/05/2016 6:20:47 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016? BAD CHOICE! Deplorable are We? Wait til Nov 8th!)
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To: ThomasMore

Oh but isn’t that a crumbling building? Ant that what all the rock seers would say?


9 posted on 10/05/2016 6:21:26 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: marktwain

I thought the same thing.
That’s a LOT of water that went somewhere else.


10 posted on 10/05/2016 6:28:47 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: wastoute

Intriguing speculation. To me, anyway, not being an atmospheric physicist.

You’re saying oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, et al. — whatever was present in the Martian atmosphere — could no longer be held by the planet and leave Mars. The Sun’s gravitational force would naturally attract them towards the Sun, and, en route, the Earth would scoop them up yearly in its orbit.

I wonder if scientists have discussed this. They must have, right? I mean, the ones not fretting about global warming. I’ve heard about them hypothesizing about water being brought to Earth on asteroids, but not this. Maybe you’re line to have a theory with your name attached to it!


11 posted on 10/05/2016 6:29:26 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: wastoute

Very interesting! That would make for a pretty cool sci-fi story. I’m not being snarky or anything, I could just picture a very interesting plot line around that. Maybe there were some beings on Mars who earned themselves an even bigger smiting than we did!


12 posted on 10/05/2016 6:29:57 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Trump/Pence for Jobs, Clinton/Kaine for Hijabs!)
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To: wastoute

Interesting theory. I wonder if the solar wind is stronger on water than gravity in the local solar system. If so than anything boiled off would have to head out into the solar system. Some of it might have ended up on Jupiter or Saturn.
Hummmm.....


13 posted on 10/05/2016 6:35:48 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: ThomasMore

Have a look at the “Bumpy” looking rocks in the center fore ground, they almost look like coral


14 posted on 10/05/2016 6:36:55 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

LOL. The Freerepublic theory of planetary evolution!

I have been reading too much Sci Fi with the missus lately. We had not read much until a year or two ago and have really been making up for it. ERBurroughs John Carter was fun. Just finished Cixin Liu. Currently reading Clarke, 2001, 2010, etc.

Also recently discovered Ancient ALiens. I just love how they come up with some real deal thing (say stone blocks in Peru) and decide the intelligence came from “out there”. Let’s see, when faced with a seeming impossibility, that some one intelligent was able to produce stones that have been quarried, transported, and incorporated into structures none of which we could do today we need to think about finding a planet on which such intelligence might have existed. Hmmm. They conjecture there must be such a planet “out there”. Seems to me they need look no further than right between their feet.


15 posted on 10/05/2016 6:40:59 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

Yup. Laid down, layer after layer from a since departed sea.


16 posted on 10/05/2016 6:51:17 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: wastoute

Unless we were in close proximity in similar orbits in relation to the sun (the largest gravity well locally) and if the suns gravity would capture escaping vaporized oxygen/hydrogen molecules and pull them towards earth.

If earths gravity were strong enough to do that on its own, I doubt our moon would still be where it is.


17 posted on 10/05/2016 7:10:00 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Chad N. Freud; wastoute

Mars still has an atmosphere, though it is much thinner than Earth’s and mostly consists of carbon dioxide.

http://www.space.com/16903-mars-atmosphere-climate-weather.html

Indeed, astronomers hypothesize that Mars had a magnetic field, but once the surface began to cool from decreased volcanic activity, the magnetic field disappeared and solar winds destroyed the atmosphere.

http://www.space.com/16912-how-was-mars-made.html


18 posted on 10/05/2016 7:48:38 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: wastoute
What if? As I understand it, Mars once had a molten, liquid core that cooled and solidified. Once that happened the Magnetosphere it had was lost.

That is indeed the case on Mars. Ancient lava fields indicate a planet-wide magnetic field, while more recent ones do not. It is believed that, once its core cooled down and could no longer generate a global magnetic field, Mars lost its "shield" from incoming cosmic rays (charged particles from, mostly, outside the solar system) and its atmosphere was blown away.

The following NOVA doc covers this very well...

Nova - Magnetic Storm - Earth's Invisible Shield:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJUTUFAWfEY

19 posted on 10/05/2016 8:11:54 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: ETL

Do you see why I say to folks asking, “Where did it go?”- Look out your window.


20 posted on 10/05/2016 8:15:29 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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