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Ali was a successful braggadocio, media lauds; Trump the same...but hated...
6/4/16 | sff

Posted on 06/04/2016 1:17:32 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Just had FOX News on the past hour or so. They cannot get enough of the adulation for Muhammed Ali.

I'm not creating the thread to debate the pros or cons of that position.

Just want to observe: they're playing clip after clip of Ali boasting of his power and skill and abilities. And the media is saying what a wonderful fellow he was.

Seems to me there is a parallel today in another arena.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: ali; bias; hypocrisy; trump
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hypocrites.
1 posted on 06/04/2016 1:17:32 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Socialism = State control of means of production

Fascism = State controls private ownership of production

Remember the Chrysler deal at the beginning of this regime?


2 posted on 06/04/2016 1:22:32 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Very good. I hadn’t thought of that.


3 posted on 06/04/2016 1:22:43 PM PDT by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: SoFloFreeper

Noticed also.


4 posted on 06/04/2016 1:23:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Trump is exposing the Fifth Column in the US)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The same thought occurred to me today. Trump is brash and a braggart, but so was Ali. Yet Donald Trump is mocked and criticized for doing basically the same thing Ali is admired for.

Ali beat and bloodied people for a living, and for reasons beyond my understanding is celebrated for that. But Donald Trump is condemned when violence breaks out outside of his rallies, even though his hands touched no one.

Welcome to Double Standard Land!


5 posted on 06/04/2016 1:26:01 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
He was a friggin' boxer with no class. Not a Marciano for sure.

And he was a draft dodger....

Won't fight for his country...but will bash someone's brains out....for a price.

6 posted on 06/04/2016 1:28:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoFloFreeper

If Trump were black he’d be considered the 2nd Coming.....

oh wait, we already have the Obamessiah.....

well maybe the 3rd Coming......


7 posted on 06/04/2016 1:32:22 PM PDT by Enchante (Shrillary Clinton: Hamas puts its rockets and ammo in schools and hospitals because Gaza is small)
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To: Sacajaweau
Ali: "I'll beat 'em up, but I won't kill 'em."

US Government: "If you won't kill 'em, we won't let you beat 'em up."

-- George Carlin

8 posted on 06/04/2016 1:32:41 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Sacajaweau

He’d fight for Allah, just not for America.......


9 posted on 06/04/2016 1:33:12 PM PDT by Enchante (Shrillary Clinton: Hamas puts its rockets and ammo in schools and hospitals because Gaza is small)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I didn’t want to point out the similarities.


10 posted on 06/04/2016 1:33:25 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Trump is not Muslim.


11 posted on 06/04/2016 1:38:43 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Clay single-handedly introduced running and dancing to boxing. Great if you were a dance fan or a track and field fan. Not so great if you were a boxing fan. It’s led to the ludicrous situation we see today, where someone like Floyd Mayweather, who absolutely will not fight in the ring, is hailed as the greatest pound-for-pound boxer of all time.


12 posted on 06/04/2016 1:41:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Oh, and tell me where Trump is doing anything similar.


13 posted on 06/04/2016 1:43:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: SoFloFreeper

When Ali had a functioning brain, he was an anti American muslim and a racist. He became lovable when he went vegie.


14 posted on 06/04/2016 1:43:43 PM PDT by anton
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To: Sacajaweau

Agree ..... DDD = dead draft dodger !


15 posted on 06/04/2016 1:54:06 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

I always rooted for Joe Frazier and George Foreman.


16 posted on 06/04/2016 1:58:00 PM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: LostInBayport
The same thought occurred to me today. Trump is brash and a braggart, but so was Ali. Yet Donald Trump is mocked and criticized for doing basically the same thing Ali is admired for.

Both are/were the best at what they did.

17 posted on 06/04/2016 2:11:22 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

I am purposefully not watching Fox right now for the same reason. You can only watch so much forced adulation.


18 posted on 06/04/2016 2:12:40 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Sacajaweau; Squantos

A draft dodger. Is that so. What unit did Mr. Trump serve in during Vietnam. I’ll take it neither of you are Trump men.

Trump got at least four deferments. He never served, and obviously never wanted to.

Ali had the guts to say “i’m not serving” even though he more than likely couldn’t have gotten a deferment given his celebrity status. Trump hid behind innumerous deferments.

Please explain to me the difference and which one is a draft dodger?


19 posted on 06/04/2016 2:37:58 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: SoFloFreeper
I turned to the golf tourney at Muirfield CC to get away from this tripe, and sure enough, on comes the tinkly 'somebody died' music and Jim 'the voice' Nantz starts extolling the virtues of the former Cassius Clay.

Not content to to leave the dead rest, he then turns to Jack Nicklaus, whose tournament is being played, and asks, "Jack, you knew Ali, what do you think?"

Then he turns to (sir)Nick Faldo, and asks for his observations.

The sad fact is that Cassius turned his back on Jesus Christ to embrace Islam, and is, most likely suffering eternal flames in hell.

20 posted on 06/04/2016 2:44:17 PM PDT by jimbug
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