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Chicago’s Invisible Shooters Wreak Havoc
Daily Beast ^ | 29 May 2016 | justin Glawe

Posted on 05/30/2016 4:05:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Some police officers who have spoken to The Daily Beast blame arduous paperwork required for street stops—Chicago’s version of stop and frisk—for this year’s uptick in gun violence. Fewer street stops mean fewer guns being taken off the street. One officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity blamed this system for the shooting spike, saying his fellow cops want nothing to do with the spider’s web of legalities involved every time they stop someone they think might be a shooter... ...“Chicago is dead,” Simmons said staring blankly at the street, the lights, the cars, the scene. “I got a beautiful apartment down the street. I got a good job… I’m willing to let all this go. I want out of this city.”

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KEYWORDS: banglist; bluezones; chicago; crime; police; rahm; urban
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The Ferguson effect? No way! That is just an urban myth!
1 posted on 05/30/2016 4:05:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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Serial Killer Similar to Beltway Sniper Hunting in Chicago?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3435142/posts


2 posted on 05/30/2016 4:09:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Start executing the gang bangers after a speedy trial. and watch what happens to the murder rate.

The reason this activity proliferates, is because there’s little pain and punishment involved with committing it. The only way to stop it is with swift and sure deterrence.

That’s what’s missing.


3 posted on 05/30/2016 4:18:47 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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4 posted on 05/30/2016 4:24:41 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (We cannot allow Hillary Clinton to become the next Angela Merkel)
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They aren’t scared for their lives or much of anything else. That is the trouble and we have gone like that since the 70s.


5 posted on 05/30/2016 4:38:38 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Barry’s, Val’s, and Mooch’s feral youngsters doin their natural thing Huh?


6 posted on 05/30/2016 4:44:26 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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“They aren’t scared for their lives or much of anything else.”

Why should they be? It’s not like the penal, judicial, or law enforcement systems, are any real threat to their lives or well being.

Until the pain and punishment for committing violent crime is too harsh to bear, the party will continue.


7 posted on 05/30/2016 4:52:41 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

I remember seeing pimpmobiles like that in my younger days. Maybe not as tacky as that one, but they were often pretty goofy looking.


8 posted on 05/30/2016 4:55:42 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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I was telling my wife this morning that it should be announced that every gang member has 24 hours to turn themselves in. They will be moved to an island somewhere. If they don’t turn themselves in, they’ll be shot on sight.

But our constitution prevents this.


9 posted on 05/30/2016 5:09:45 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (The day Trump is sworn in I'm changing my screen name.)
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But our constitution prevents this.

The other side is ignoring the Constitution already. A time is coming when we will, too.

10 posted on 05/30/2016 5:11:50 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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I'm feel bad for law enforcement. But the residents are slowly getting the kind of living situation they have wanted. Good, hope it works for them. Just rename area ," Avoid, hostile territory "😠
11 posted on 05/30/2016 5:22:45 PM PDT by chit*chat
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Read yesterday that chicago only investigated 11% of 2015 murders. Not close them, investigate them.

If you need to kill someone surprise them with a free weekend in Chicago then whack them there.

12 posted on 05/30/2016 5:23:23 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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I think you’re right. It might have to be ignored until the good guys take back control. Then we have to worry about them ever going back to it.


13 posted on 05/30/2016 5:28:00 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (The day Trump is sworn in I'm changing my screen name.)
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14 posted on 05/30/2016 5:42:39 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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Cops have to fill out a multipage form for each person they question, the forms are then sent to the ACLU, who then contact the people stopped, with the intent of suing the city/cops for the action. This is why there is no proactive work going on. No one wants to sacrifice their job. This is called staying fetal.


15 posted on 05/30/2016 5:47:25 PM PDT by Mark was here (Isn't attacking Trump's ex-girlfriends a "war on women"?)
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To: Windflier

No deterant, when you introduce a quick and fatal deterant you will get thier attention


16 posted on 05/30/2016 5:47:48 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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“A time is coming when we will, too.”

Indeed it will.

L


17 posted on 05/30/2016 5:52:58 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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“Laws don’t protect us; they protect criminals,” he [anonymous police officer] told her that day...

Now where have I heard this before? Oh, yeah...

...when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed.” Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

What it would take to put Chicago back to rights is a little difficult to imagine under the current regimes, both city and federal. We'll be changing the latter in a few months. The former never really does seem to change.

18 posted on 05/30/2016 5:56:57 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Fewer street stops mean fewer guns being taken off the street.

If they had taken people off the streets every time they took a gun off the street, the herd would have thinned out long ago.

19 posted on 05/30/2016 6:05:20 PM PDT by umgud
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“when you introduce a quick and fatal deterant you will get thier attention”

If we had functional law enforcement, judicial, and penal systems, that would do the trick, but we don’t.

Now, ‘frontier justice’ would accomplish the same thing, but you won’t see that unless the whole social compact breaks down.

Let us hope it doesn’t come to that.


20 posted on 05/30/2016 6:08:13 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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