Posted on 05/24/2016 7:20:50 AM PDT by wtd
"The logical explanation is that an explosion brought it down," the official told The Associated Press.
The official, who is part of the Egyptian team investigating the crash that killed all 66 people on board the flight from Paris to Cairo early last Thursday, has personally examined the remains at a Cairo morgue. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
"The head of Egypt's state-run provider of air navigation services, Ehab Azmy told The Associated Press that the plane did not swerve or lose altitude before it disappeared off radar, challenging an earlier account by Greece's defense minister.
Azmy, head of the National Air Navigation Services Company, said that in the minutes before the plane disappeared it was flying at its normal altitude of 37,000 feet, according to the radar reading. "That fact degrades what the Greeks are saying about the aircraft suddenly losing altitude before it vanished from radar," he added.
"There was no turning to the right or left, and it was fine when it entered Egypt's FIR (flight information region), which took nearly a minute or two before it disappeared," Azmy said.
According to Greece's defense minister Panos Kammenos the plane swerved wildly and dropped to 10,000 feet before it fell off radar.
Greek civil aviation authorities said all appeared fine with the flight until air traffic controllers were to hand it over to their Egyptian counterparts. The pilot did not respond to their calls, and then the plane vanished from radars.
It was not immediately possible to explain the discrepancy between the Greek and Egyptian accounts of the air disaster.
Egypt, which is sending a submarine to search for the flight recorders, has also refuted earlier reports alleging that search crews had found the plane's black boxes - which could offer vital clues to what happened in the final minutes of the flight."
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Interesting comment to consider from a poster at
EgyptAir flight MS803 from Cairo to Paris, and the return flight MS804 from Paris to Cairo, used a Boeing 737-800 for every single flight except one. That one flight was the Egypt Air flight MS804 on May 18 that went down. An Airbus A320 was substituted for the regular Boeing 737.Did someone plant a bomb on the A320, then "caused" some sort of malfunction that required the A320 to be substituted for the scheduled jet?
Here is FlightAware's information for flight MS803, and you can see that all previous flights were with the B737, and two subsequent scheduled flights are with a B737, but the doomed flight used an A320. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MSR803
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Statement by Islamic State militants claims the group was behind the downing of Egyptian passenger plane from French capital Paris that was pounded for Egypts Cairo.
The jihadist group claims bomb inside plane caused explosion that crashed plane. Its believed all those on board might have died.
French authorities said earlier the plane crashed in southern Mediterranean and later remnants was found near Greek island.
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On May 20th 2016 The Aviation Herald received information from three independent channels, that ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages with following content were received from the aircraft:
no further ACARS messages were received
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From the NBC report re ACARS: An FCU refers to a unit in cockpit the pilot uses to input instructions into the flight computer. SEC3 refers to the computer that controls the spoilers and elevator computers of the plane. The fault messages indicate there could have been problems with the planes controls and computers, critical to controlling the aircraft.
There is also speculation that the dive, 360 degree turn and plunge was probably large sections of the aircraft that could be seen by radar.
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Three EgyptAir security officials said the threatening graffiti, which appeared about two years ago, had been the work of aviation workers at Cairo Airport. Playing on the phonetic similarity between the last two letters in the planes registration, SU-GCC, and the surname of Egypts president, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, some workers also wrote traitor and murderer.
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Account directly contradicts the official claim that there was no distress call.
The pilot of the doomed EgyptAir flight spoke to air traffic control in Egypt for several minutes just before the plane crashed, a French television station has claimed.
M6 said that the pilot told Cairo control about the smoke which had engulfed parts of the aircraft and decided to make an emergency descent to try to clear the fumes.
M6s story, quoting unnamed French aviation officials, was not confirmed by the French air accident investigation agency, the BEA.
No such information had been passed by the Egyptian authorities to three BEA investigators who had flow to Cairo to take part in the official inquiry, the agency said.
M6 said that the pilot of the Egyptair A320 had "a conversation several minutes long" with Cairo air traffic control after the plane ran into difficulties in the early hours of Thursday morning.
As a result of the conversation, the pilot decided to make an emergency descent, depressurising the cabin, in an attempt to clear smoke fumes which had invaded the front of the aircraft.
Just after the Paris-Cairo flight vanished on Thursday, there were contradictory claims about distress calls or signals. An airline spokesman initially said that there had been a distress call from the airbus. This statement was denied by the Egyptian military and withdrawn by EgyptAir.
The claims follow reports of leaked flight data showing trouble in the cockpit and smoke in a plane lavatory just before the plane crashed.
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[Is a rapid descent of 20,000 feet in two minutes SOP for clearing smoke?]
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[The timeline indicates that the incident occurred just as the changeover was supposed to happen from Greek air traffic control to Egypt ATC ...similar to MH370.]
"This is 0-7-2-5 Padova control. (Unintelligible) 8-0-4. Thank you so much. Good day er good night."
Supposed last communication from pilot.
But just as with the Malaysian plane, this isn't how communications end, at least not here in the US. As soon as one signs off with one controller, an immediate attempt is made to contact the next controller in line. But this appears not to have occurred with this plane or the Malaysian plane.
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Eerie trials to complete Project Bojinka to see how trace-able evidence is?
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Keep in mind some recent history:
Sounds like it blowed up real good.
Where there are muzzies, there is death and destruction.
“The logical explanation is that an explosion brought it down,” the official told The Associated Press.”
The Muslim suckups are going to be mad that it was not a mechanical failure.
Makes me think of tear gas.
Thre was a story about a bomb in a can...makes this viable.
I’m wondering why the little goatfackers aren’t all over the place flapping their lips.
Lone wolf goatfacker, maybe?
This story has gone dark already? No new news on the investigation all day?
Interesting how quickly air tragedies get swept under the rug these days - isn’t it? Islam is desensitizing humanity at record speed.
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