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.22 vs .223 – Home Defense – Drywall Penetration
thefirearmblog.com ^ | 5/9/2016 | Nathan S.

Posted on 05/09/2016 10:43:00 AM PDT by rktman

While I am sure that most would opt to select .223/5.56 NATO over .22LR for home defense, but I have heard the argument that .22 would be “better” for home defense since its reduced energy would mean that it would penetrate through fewer walls. On the flip side, others argue that the 5.56 would be better as the round would tumble dissipating its energy and thus penetrate less.

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1 posted on 05/09/2016 10:43:00 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

For the average non military CQ Combat trained shooter, neither is good for home defense.

The .22Lr would feel like a bee sting in just about every part of your body (except the head.)

Using a long rifle in the home is unwieldy.

We use a double barreled shot gun for that. If it comes down to using it in the house for defense, I don’t give a shit about the walls.


2 posted on 05/09/2016 10:47:11 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Same here RT. 20 gauge double Ithica circa 1920 with 3 buck.


3 posted on 05/09/2016 10:49:20 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: rktman

#6 shot in a 12ga. perfect for apartments. Noisy but won’t penetrate dry wall.


4 posted on 05/09/2016 10:49:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Vermont Lt

Look up the Reagan shooting.

IIRC, 5 shots fired, 4 grown men taken to ground, one almost permanently, one left a paraplegic. Not one thought it a be sting.

Not the best, but only hits count. A hit with a 22 short is better than a miss with a 44 mag.


5 posted on 05/09/2016 10:52:04 AM PDT by wrench
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To: SkyDancer

And a pump saves a lot of ammo. When the d-bag hears KACHUNK, he’ll run away.


6 posted on 05/09/2016 10:53:14 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: bicyclerepair

I share a room in a house with three other girls and I have my dad’s Winchester 12ga. pump. That along with my .40Smith Shield.


7 posted on 05/09/2016 10:54:36 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: rktman

IF .223 THEN frangible ammo for home defense.

ELSE your rounds can perform a full house penetration.

.22LR can also over penetrate and aint terribly lethal unless you place a lot of rounds in your target.

If you are rightfully concerned about drywall penetration, then consider getting a Remington 870 Tactical shotgun, and load it with NON-magnum 2 3/4” shells and #8 shot.

My two cents.


8 posted on 05/09/2016 10:55:28 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: rktman

I would never compare the two. Other than bullet diameter they have nothing in common. I go 9mm + 12ga + 00 buck. That’s naught - naught buck to the media.


9 posted on 05/09/2016 10:56:32 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: wrench

I can put a lot of .22 LR down range and chew up a target. I have no doubt that my target pistol with its red dot would mean a hit with every trigger pull.

But I am trained and practiced. My wife and daughters are not. They are familiar with the guns. They are trained with safety and usage.

In a home defense situation, I am trading a little accuracy for some confidence in execution.

And the guy that shot Reagan was crazy.


10 posted on 05/09/2016 10:56:34 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: rktman
Shot gun is the way to go. 12 gauge with #3 or #4 shot.


11 posted on 05/09/2016 10:57:07 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: wrench

I believe .22lr leads the pack in murders in this country. Very deadly - never understood the mythology that it can be stopped by a heavy coat, etc.


12 posted on 05/09/2016 10:57:30 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: rktman

Using a rifle or shotgun indoors could be unwieldly. Consider using a larger caliber pistol instead. You should research frangible bullets, such as the GLASER SAFETY SLUG. They are designed not to penetrate sheetrock walls but also provide much better knockdown power than a .22 bullet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug


13 posted on 05/09/2016 10:57:44 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: rktman

False dilemma.

12 gauge


14 posted on 05/09/2016 10:58:15 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: rktman

I agree with the shotgun comments. Love my Pardner and it was cheap.


15 posted on 05/09/2016 10:58:45 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: SkyDancer

...#6 shot in a 12ga. perfect for apartments. Noisy but won’t penetrate dry wall...

I’ll bet it will at most any distance in any room in an apartment.

Nothing scientific. I’ve just seen what it’s done up close range to critters such as nuisanc! woodchucks. It blows their heads clean off at short range.


16 posted on 05/09/2016 10:59:22 AM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: bicyclerepair; tx_eggman

Thank you, Mr. Biden


17 posted on 05/09/2016 11:00:29 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: bicyclerepair
When the d-bag hears KACHUNK, he’ll run away

Or shoot you, since you just disclosed your location.

18 posted on 05/09/2016 11:02:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cruz never could have outfought Trump. I never knew, until this day, that it was Romney all along.)
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To: SkyDancer

Not sure where you got the idea that #6 won’t penetrate drywall but that is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uERIjpiBvog


19 posted on 05/09/2016 11:02:29 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rktman

I remember talking to a Sheriffs Deputy who lost a friend and fellow officer to a felon.

The felon on drugs was shot three times in the chest with three 45ACP rounds, one round even nicked his heart. The felon although mortally wounded was still able to shoot back and kill the police officer.

I wouldn’t depend on a .22lr to stop an attacker quickly.

Instead use a .223(5.56) with a forty grain hollow point bullet. It will still have tremendous knockdown power (traveling 3300 feet per second) at short range and the hollow point design of the bullet should minimize the penetration of the projectile through walls.


20 posted on 05/09/2016 11:02:58 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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