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Does Erdogan want his own Islamic state?
Al Monitor ^ | 29 Apr, 2016 | Mustafa Akyol

Posted on 05/01/2016 8:41:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Parliament Speaker Ismail Kahraman unexpectedly sparked controversy in Turkey when on April 25 he declared that Turkey’s new constitution should forgo mention of “secularism” and instead be a “religious constitution” referencing God. His words reignited Turkey’s always tense “secularism debate,” which has been amplified since 2002 when the Justice and Development Party (AKP) came to power. Kahraman's remarks led to protests in a number of cities, a call by the main opposition leader for him to resign and allegations by secular pundits that the Speaker had shown the AKP’s “true face,” its “real intentions.” Because Kahraman is a known confidant of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, many also suspected that his statement was part of a scheme being orchestrated by Turkey's leader.

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: erdogan; islam; islamicstate; nato; turkey

1 posted on 05/01/2016 8:41:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Who had the not so bright idea to let Turkey into NATO?


2 posted on 05/01/2016 8:41:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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err-DOG-an is an enemy.
poo-tin is an enemy.
ass-ad is an enemy.
isis is an enemy.
hezbollah is an enemy.
iran is an enemy.

Sounds like they should be left alone to duke things out.


3 posted on 05/01/2016 8:44:02 AM PDT by sagar
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To: MtnClimber

No, he wants to be the 12th Mahdi/Ummah Caliph.


4 posted on 05/01/2016 9:14:40 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: MtnClimber

Erdogan wants a revival of the Caliphate in Istanbul.


5 posted on 05/01/2016 11:13:12 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Paladin2

The Turks aren’t really into the Mahdi thing. They are into restoring the Caliphate where they believe it belongs, in Istanbul. Erdogan does not want to be Caliph. Most of the caliphs ere figureheads for the ruling sultans that kept a rein on Mohammedans outside the political borders of the Sultan. That was the theory and partially it worked.


6 posted on 05/01/2016 11:16:05 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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>Erdogan wants a revival of the Caliphate in Istanbul.

And I want to see Constantinople liberated and it's mosques destroyed. I may get my wish if Turkey become a Caliphate.

7 posted on 05/01/2016 11:18:12 AM PDT by RedWulf (Defeat Hillery or kiss the republic goodbye.)
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Does Erdogan want his own Islamic state?

Yes. I've known that ever since he was elected. He has been pushing for an Islamic state publicly and vocally, as well as by favoring Islam through government activity.

What happened was that the poorer Turks in the interior, who are strongly Muslim, outbred the more cosmopolitan Turks in the major cities. They then outvoted the more cosmopolitan ones. Erdogan knows where his votes come from.

Just for the record, when I was teaching a course in statistics at Marmara University in Istanbul, I used to use data from the Turkish census in my courses. I'd have students run statistical tests on the differences between age groups, regional groups, etc. Differences in such things as literacy, education level, etc. the trends were always toward more pro-Muslim, and lesser-educated.

8 posted on 05/02/2016 12:59:09 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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