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Hillary And "Classified" Information
blueunicorn6 | 4/28/2016 | blueunicorn6

Posted on 04/28/2016 10:34:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6

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To: ThunderSleeps
Aghast doesn’t even begin to cover it. She knew. Sec State has “original classification authority.” Her contention that she didn’t know because the information wasn’t marked is a lie. At best it is an admission by her that she lacks the good judgment to determine what information should be protected or not - in other words she should not have original classification authority and should not be put in a position of trust. Her excuse is an admission of inadequacy and ineptitude and is an immediate and unequivocal disqualification from consideration for President.

Very good points. The words inadequacy, ineptitude and 'subseqent unequivocal disqualification from consideration for President' hit the nail on the head. Trump should repeat 24/7.

21 posted on 04/28/2016 12:04:55 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

You watch.

(I happen to agree with every word you posted but that is irrelevant)

The excuse for not prosecuting her will be that there is always another layer of the onion to peel back and they cannot proceed unless and until they’ve explored all of them. Meanwhile...there are probably 10 offenses/crimes that should have life terms affixed to them. And I am being generous.

That’s WITHOUT any probe of the Clinton foundation. That’s WITHOUT any exposure of covert gun sales to ISIS or whomever it was at the time in Libya.

The sheer disclosure of national security secrets WITHOUT ONE IOTA of regard for the consequences, where they lead, who got killed/exposed....times at least 1300 instances last I heard...is a dozen life terms.


22 posted on 04/28/2016 1:10:24 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Yes, just the email/server stuff alone is enough to put her away for life, if not the other punishment for treason. If the prosecuting attorneys recommend indictment, she would, as you said, have at least 1300 indictable offenses. It really is mind-boggling that she's even allowed to run for President, let alone being considered for it. Rudy Giuliani said there were at least 16 Federal laws broken with the email/server issue alone.

Regarding your 'peeling the onion' example, can't they proceed with 10 charges and keep peeling, or is there some feeling that they only have one shot and have to do it all at once?

The WITHOUT ONE IOTA of regard for the consequences issue you mentioned is really psychopathic. Justice. . will we ever see it with the Clintons?

We're either a Nation of Laws, or We are Not. You know, in the big picture, our whole national heritage history and our nation's future, this case is Big and very precedent setting. Comey and Lynch better get it right. I don't mind them taking their time, just get it right and proceed.

23 posted on 04/28/2016 1:28:33 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

“can’t they proceed with 10 charges and keep peeling...”

I’m not a lawyer (I work with several of them and have significant paralegal experience) but they do not do that. They have their ducks all in a row before embarking. They will not go anywhere if they believe they can be surprised by something.

You and I imagine “what extenuating surprise could there possibly be that would negate selling top secret nat’l security info...when she doesn’t need to SELL to be in serious violation of the law...the mere EXPOSURE of same is full on treason. I would bet that this is the crux of the FBI’s dilemma. They probably cannot prove that she sold this secret for this much money. The speeches she gave were legit work (yeah, right) that she collected fee(s) for. The exposure of the secrets, egregious as it may be, was a matter of carelessness, so is forgivable for a nice lady with a grandchild. So, lacking the A > B > C linear connection, they are or would be stuck prosecuting her for mere carelessness and everyone has their bad days, right?


24 posted on 04/28/2016 1:45:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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To: Art in Idaho
The Beast not only doesn't have a single one of the necessary qualities to be president, she is the sum of everything detrimental to the office.

It may be time to shake the etch-a-sketch.

25 posted on 04/28/2016 2:03:36 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
So, lacking the A > B > C linear connection, they are or would be stuck prosecuting her for mere carelessness and everyone has their bad days, right?

Banging head against the wall. . If it comes down to that, then we are done as a nation. Read somewhere her intent has nothing to do with a lot of the violations, or as you said, the mere EXPOSURE of same is full on treason.

So, we'll see what they come up with. If, as you say, that have to have all of the onion peeled, then the Clinton Foundation/Global Initiative investigation may take years. Can't they do the email/server case separately and do the other after Trump is in? . . Or are they all part of the onion? FBI lawyers really have their work cut out for them. Like I said, this is Big, so they can't screw it up. Will be precedent setting case law 200 years from now. If the big cheezes are exempt, we might as well start over.

26 posted on 04/28/2016 2:31:01 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Jacquerie
The Beast not only doesn't have a single one of the necessary qualities to be president, she is the sum of everything detrimental to the office.

That's for sure. I'm actually scared of her becoming president. Her psychopathic email/server history plus the, "By God, I'll show them a woman can make War," may get us into an unnecessary war. Also her "You're not going to tell me what to do" demeanor as she walks in the room is not going to play well with Putin and other world leaders. The constant woman card would get old quickly, just like Obama's constant race card.

Etch-a-sketch sounding better and better.

27 posted on 04/28/2016 2:54:28 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho; Liz
Benghazi may have been the result of data from her server being conveyed to terrorists. Not to mention the thousands of lives that have been lost in the ME due to hacked data that may have influenced our enemies tactics. All our Top Secret military secrets, DARPA, NSA all the agencies. The magnitude of all of this is very heady stuff. People, lives, governments and whole areas of the world, and all because Hillary wanted her own private server so she could keep all her criminal operations secret and her private life off limits.

Great stuff - AND you're right about the pent up anger of the American people... it's too much. If she was a man she'd be in jail...

28 posted on 04/28/2016 4:18:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Under Cruz every home will have a basketball ring, football net and a hockey glove- Willie Robertson)
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To: Art in Idaho; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; freeangel; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; ...
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Check out # 20 .

Good post, Art in Idaho.

29 posted on 04/28/2016 4:24:02 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Art in Idaho
The very best situation you can think of if this were an average citizen working in say, the Pentagon, would be arrest, investigation and maybe out on bail with home arrest with an ankle monitor waiting for the next step. In reality, said person would probably be waiting in jail.

During my time in the military, I worked with materials classified at the levels she had sitting around unsecured on her 'server'. It was Ft. Leavenworth Prison time if I mishandled a fraction of the classified material she did. She should be in jail, not running for president.

30 posted on 04/28/2016 4:40:08 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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It was Ft. Leavenworth Prison time if I mishandled a fraction of the classified material she did. She should be in jail, not running for president.

Absolutely right. I didn't handle TS stuff but certainly Secret and Classified. Always was nervous around it and double checked it to make sure it was put away or sent back, etc. I knew the penalties. Yes, she should be in jail now.

The fact that our system even allows Hillary to even run for President is a testimony on how broken the qualification process is. Goes back to the DNC and democratic party. Don't hold your breath.

31 posted on 04/28/2016 6:13:52 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: blueunicorn6
But, does the average Democrat voter understand how wrong her behavior was?...the average Democratic voter doesn't even understand the word "wrong" - power is all they're interested in.....
32 posted on 04/28/2016 8:48:01 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: blueunicorn6

As SOS Hillary was one of the people appointed to determine what is classified, her claim that any communications weren’t marked classified is an outright lie. Nothing had to be marked, she decided whether it should be marked, and knew when she saw/wrote it that it was classified.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-original-classification-authority

I went to a school in the military to learn how to fix binoculars. I had to have a Secret clearance, mostly because the school had a periscope laid out for us to see, and text books on how to disassemble, clean, reassemble and adjust it. I still can’t tell you a thing about a periscope 40 years later, except that it has a reticle (crosshairs) and compass, you can see that in the movies. I can’t tell you what its magnification is (not that I remember anyway), or anything else about it that I may or may not remember. There were other aspects of this school that I still cannot discuss. All classified Secret. I didn’t even risk taking notes out of the building...

That would land me in jail, and it’s just a fraction of what Hillary has done. Just the lies alone are monumental...

I never sent or received any classified communications
I never sent anything marked classified
I only used one device
My server was in a room protected by the Secret Service (as if this made it secure)

And of course there are all the unrelated lies...

We landed in Bosnia under sniper fire
Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on 9-11 (safely in a building miles away)
We were dead broke when we left the White House (Bill had a $200,000 per year pension and a $8 million advance on a book deal in his pocket) I wish I was that broke...
We could barely pay pour mortgages (see above, and...mortgages PLURAL??? And have you seen those houses? The monthly payments were probably more than the average person makes in a month. They currently own 4 mansions, worth around %35 million total)
My husband will be exonerated, he never did anything wrong (impeachment era speech)

And that’s the short list...

It won’t be long now, Trump will most likely be bringing all of this and more to the attention of the voters...Hillary might not be prosecuted, but she’s about to hit a major speed bump in her political career...


33 posted on 04/29/2016 3:37:08 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (I'm with the bomb squad. If you see me running, CATCH UP!)
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To: Art in Idaho; blueunicorn6; Attention Surplus Disorder; LucyT; Nachum; null and void; Publius; ...

Art this is doubtless one of the very finest critical examinations of Hillary that I have ever read. You missed nothing! I will only add that Hillary began her life of crime under the DNC Watergate Investigations Committee. The director of same fired her rather than expose the fact that Hillary altered and forged official documents, and lied repeatedly to her supervisors. Forty years of criminal behavior followed. I take my hat off to you, and with your permission, I will spread the post, albeit without your FR handle.


34 posted on 04/29/2016 8:12:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Thank you stephenjohnbanker. Feel free to pass it on.

I just hope finally justice is done with the Clintons. I knew she did shenanigans during the Watergate hearings but didn't know she "altered and forged official documents, and lied repeatedly to her supervisors." That's big, and yes, 40 years of criminality since then.

35 posted on 04/29/2016 10:36:20 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Time to PAY


36 posted on 04/29/2016 10:46:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Time to PAY

Yes indeed!

37 posted on 04/29/2016 11:43:53 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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