Posted on 03/29/2016 1:23:22 PM PDT by Beave Meister
MOSCOW — Donald J. Trump, the leading Republican presidential candidate, was widely condemned when he called for the United States to “take out the families” of terrorists.
His approach — even after he clarified that he was not talking about killing the relatives — was dismissed by many as immoral and unlawful. Yet, it is the very tactic that Russia has pursued for decades.
It is the signature, though officially unacknowledged, policy behind Moscow’s counterinsurgency and counterterrorism strategies, and Russia’s actions in smashing a Muslim separatist rebellion in the Caucasus provide a laboratory for testing Mr. Trump’s ideas.
The family ties that bind in terrorist groups came into focus last week after the police in Brussels disclosed that two of the three suicide bombers in the attacks there were brothers, Ibrahim and Khalid el-Bakraoui. All told, analysts estimate that a third of the participants in terrorist acts are related to another attacker.
In the conflict that began in Chechnya and has since metastasized into a loosely organized Islamic rebellion throughout the Caucasus region, Russian security services routinely arrest, torture and kill relatives, rights groups say.
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They gone.
The best way to avoid this? Simply do not allow Muslims in your country.
I note that Japan or Korea, for example, don’t have a problem with Islamic Terrorism, and therefore, they do not need to resort to violent methods to suppress them.
Is it time to close the VACATION SPA?
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ExSES: Gitmo is a VACATION SPA by comparison to 95%+ of the detention facilities worldwide! Cuba wants Zero to give it back to them for a resort development!
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Sometimes you have to decide if you are really at war, and if you are, what are you prepared to do.
The case of Japan illustrates the dangers of ‘diversity.’
In such a homogeneous Japanese society, gaijins stick out like round-eyed sore thumbs, making it very difficult to blend in with the natives.
Quite often a terrorist is very willing to sacrifice him/herself, but if they know that doing so, they may be sacrificing their entire family, it gives them pause.
The raghead terrorist that took part in the attacks in Paris and then escaped to Belgium, was caught and arrested living four doors down from his family. You can't tell me that they didn't know about his activities and that he was on the run from authorities. They should be rounded up and at least held as accessories.
Off and on, the Israelis have bulldozed the homes of terrorist's families. The success of this, like anything these days, is said to be ineffective - by liberals, while conservatives hail the success.
The best way to avoid this? Simply do not allow Muslims in your country.
I note that Japan or Korea, for example, don’t have a problem with Islamic Terrorism, and therefore, they do not need to resort to violent methods to suppress them.
So let’s elect a leader that will make sure America is morally equivalent with the Soviet Union KGB, fulfilling a 50 year propaganda goal. Brilliant /sarcasm
Chechnya is hardly a model case. Russia has been dealing with the issue since the 90s, and their solution was to install a Islamist puppet and let him build a police state that pays lip service to Moscow.
You don’t choose war. War chooses you.
Point taken, but they also treat their own countries like they're minimum security prisons.
And even that doesn't work sometimes, witness the nerve gassing of the subway that happened in Japan.
The world needs to acknowledge Islam as the deadly enemy it is and wipe it out, or at least restrict it to Saudi Arabia and blockade the bastards from any emigration.
Saudi is behind ALL of it - supported by western powers, of course. Obama and Merkel have proven that conspiracy theory true many times over at this point.
Who TF cares? Kill 'em, let Satan sort 'em.
There’s a real tendency among establishment types to automatically say that morally troubling tactics “don’t work”. Thus we are told that torture “doesn’t work” despite thousands of years of evidence to the contrary. Silly reasons that are easily shot down are put forth such as “a person being tortured will say anything, so the information is worthless”. While that may be true that they will say anything (although eventually the fear of further torture is so great that they will be too afraid to lie), it ignores that the information can then be checked out to see if it is indeed true. The opponents of these tactics make this argument precisely to avoid the actual conundrum that something we find morally repulsive may in fact be helpful or even necessary to protect ourselves from a dire threat. Taking the war to relatives, some of whom may be innocent is the same type of moral dilemma.
I've lived in various Asian countries. They are not close to minimum security prisons at all. What they do have, is strong societal conformity. Unwritten (or sometimes written) rules on public behavior that everyone accepts, which are reflections of their common culture. Not so different, really, from my father's stories of expected public behavior in his town and Lutheran community when he was growing up in the mid-west.
But to the point, these Asian societies have rejected the pressure of Western multi-culti progressive social engineers on 3rd world immigration, knowing integration would be impossible and only social strife would result.
“There’s a right way, and a wrong way, There’s a weak way, and a strong way...” - Noel Coward
Youry all of the prisoners there with the appropriate military tribunals. hose who are worthy of the death sentence should have it pronounced and carried out forthwith. Any others should be dealt with appropriately and immediately. Then return Gitmo to its use as a necessary American military reservation.
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