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Chicago, Trump’s Incitements, and Cruz’s Response
NRO ^ | 3/12/16 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 03/12/2016 2:45:46 PM PST by cornelis

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To: cornelis
I am amazed to find myself defending Trump, but this really is a bit much, this organized chorus of "he brought it on himself". On the one hand you have occasional exhortations to defend oneself - So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of ‘em, would you? - and a 78-year-old man who threw a punch he shouldn't have, was NOT urged to do so by Trump or anyone else speaking at the occasion, and has been arrested for it. On the other hand, you have a deliberately planned act of mob violence organized by self-proclaimed revolutionaries who are now crowing publicly about shutting down a speaker they don't like.

These are not the same thing. They are not even close to the same thing, and pretending otherwise because it favors a political candidate is not an act of respect for the truth. What we have on the one hand is a few intemperate words; what we have on the other is an act of violent political warfare. Those are the facts, and shading them isn't going to help. And using vague accusations such as "creating an atmosphere" is the act of a coward and a liar.

21 posted on 03/12/2016 3:03:36 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: cornelis

I see you have been here since 1999.

I have not checked out your posting history but I assume that you have posted and read a lot of posts in the last SIXTEEN YEARS.

In all that time, in the 10 billion times you have seen the initials POS posted (just a rough estimate), did you ever accuse anyone else of vulgarity for posting that?

Just curious.


22 posted on 03/12/2016 3:04:49 PM PST by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: heights

I don’t like Trump’s incitement or threat of lawsuits. This is not what makes America great. It makes America combative.


23 posted on 03/12/2016 3:05:34 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis

99% of those protesters didn’t even know Trump said that. It’s moronic to side with the protesters and blame the victim.


24 posted on 03/12/2016 3:05:50 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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25 posted on 03/12/2016 3:06:37 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: cornelis

You live in Zambia?


26 posted on 03/12/2016 3:06:52 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cornelis
"He is a contributing editor of National Review and a senior fellow at the National Review Institute."

I'm not positive, but I think he also participated in the recent NRO "conservative" pile-on of Trump.

http://www.nationalreview.com/author/andrew-c-mccarthy

27 posted on 03/12/2016 3:07:16 PM PST by moovova
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To: cornelis

NRO ?

Bill Mahar is more objective and right more often.


28 posted on 03/12/2016 3:08:08 PM PST by moehoward
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So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of ‘em, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise“


29 posted on 03/12/2016 3:08:40 PM PST by cornelis
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30 posted on 03/12/2016 3:09:25 PM PST by Bon mots
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31 posted on 03/12/2016 3:09:26 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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“which not inevitably begets more rogue behavior and perversely enables thugs to portray their thuggery as justifiable retaliation.”

To anyone with a room temperature IQ who noticed the placards, flags, etc. that the thugs had, it was plain that retaliation for Trump’s impatience with protesters was not what they had in mind. It was retaliation for what Trump says about making America great again and his methods to bring that about.

These thugs were a zoo collection of riff raff who were gathered and sent in to do their job by professional provocateurs.

Does anyone really believe that Bill Ayres was offended by language Trump used with disruptive protesters?

And then shifty Cruz gets up and tries to smear Trump with blame for the entire incident. Then he is joined by little Marco and then the postman’s son.


32 posted on 03/12/2016 3:10:51 PM PST by odawg
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Not the same thing, just the same: “It is ludicrous to argue that, because the hard Left is primarily responsible for the outbreak of chaos and violence that caused Donald Trump’s Chicago rally to be canceled last night, it is wrong to condemn the thuggery Trump often encourages at his appearances.”


33 posted on 03/12/2016 3:10:56 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Billthedrill

Great.


34 posted on 03/12/2016 3:13:31 PM PST by odawg
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Hey Andrew McCarthy, if something is not logical, it's not true.

A Trump rally is full of born again Christians. Those people don't beat up anyone and wouldn't be there if they thought Trump did.

Find a better lie to tell.

35 posted on 03/12/2016 3:13:46 PM PST by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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To: samtheman

I’ve been here a while, and I know the difference between then and now.


36 posted on 03/12/2016 3:15:19 PM PST by cornelis
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I’m sorry, I can’t agree. Those examples of “thuggery” cited, weren’t. You can pretend they were if it makes you feel better, but they weren’t.


37 posted on 03/12/2016 3:15:54 PM PST by Billthedrill
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..., it is wrong to condemn the thuggery Trump often encourages at his appearance

Excuse me NRO. We did not just have Trump supporters violently attack a Bernie rally. But if that had happened, it would be ludicrous to then talk about how Bernie encouraged thuggish behavior as some kind of excuse. Not even Hilary would sink that low.

38 posted on 03/12/2016 3:18:25 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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Here's a real POS screed you may be interested in from our "conservative" friends at NRO.

National Review Writer: Working-Class Communities ‘Deserve To Die’

39 posted on 03/12/2016 3:18:25 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Billthedrill

It’s not thuggery, but lawsuits are a pretty near thuggery. They won’t make America great.


40 posted on 03/12/2016 3:18:59 PM PST by cornelis
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