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Historical Cycles
self | 2/7/16 | Self

Posted on 02/07/2016 1:20:20 PM PST by Little Bill

I have been reading History since I was in the Fourth Grade thus destroying any hope of an Academic Future.

About 17 years ago I ran across a web page about what happened in 3200 BC and the birth of Civilization as we know it. Cool.

Lately I have seen posts on the GGG thread about the Sea People and the death of the Old Kingdom. It seemed to me rather strange that the Old Kingdom croaked in the same time frame as the Sargonite Empire in the two rives area and the sea people occurred at the time of general collapse of civilization in the Near East.

So I started looking at the time line of civilizations and there seems to be a nasty thousand year up and down cycle.

This cycle is more or less in time but seems real, to me any way.


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I have looked around can't find any thing about this in the non nut job world, any input welcome.
1 posted on 02/07/2016 1:20:20 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: Little Bill; SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 02/07/2016 1:24:40 PM PST by Little Bill (o)
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To: Little Bill

Historical Cycles

http://www.merciancycles.co.uk/


3 posted on 02/07/2016 1:27:01 PM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: Little Bill

This might be of interest: http://gizmodo.com/all-hail-histomap-4-000-years-of-history-in-a-single-p-1109857517

It shows only the last 4000 years of what we think we know of civilization. But it is interesting.


4 posted on 02/07/2016 1:30:05 PM PST by Purdue77 ("...shall not be infringed.")
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To: Little Bill

Read any Robert Temple?

Also dating Egyptian Old Kingdom is an extremely unreliable base to infer a cycle of some periodicity.


5 posted on 02/07/2016 1:32:34 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Little Bill

WB Yeats’ Vision as well as Giambattista Vico would be of interest, perhaps....


6 posted on 02/07/2016 1:36:06 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: PIF

I read his translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh, may still have it in my book collection, disorder.


7 posted on 02/07/2016 1:39:54 PM PST by Little Bill (o)
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To: Little Bill

Here are some of his books. He is, in case you are unaware a science historian and Egyptologist.

No aliens.

A good bit of
“The Egyptian Dawn” and “The Sphinx Mystery” are online as well as lots of images he & his wife took while at various sites many of the images are from sites closed to tourists and undocumented. They were granted access to the Valley Temple and the Sphinx Temple.

Egyptian Dawn (The Old Kingdom and how it is dated - includes results of his optical biothermolucence dating of several sites above and below ground.)
http://www.egyptiandawn.info/chapter1.html

Sphinx Mystery (What the Sphinx may really be and why it was created)
http://sphinxmystery.com/

Crystal Sun (Uses of lenses in Old Kingdom and prior)
http://www.robert-temple.com/crystalSunMain.html


8 posted on 02/07/2016 2:07:55 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Little Bill

Civilizations take centuries to build, and only a generation to destroy.


9 posted on 02/07/2016 2:12:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Little Bill
Mohammed and Charlemagne

and

the book

10 posted on 02/07/2016 2:12:47 PM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: BenLurkin

Obama would say: “Civilizations take centuries to build, and only eight years to destroy.”


11 posted on 02/07/2016 2:15:08 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Little Bill

Round about 3000 BC the bronze age ended and the iron age began accompanied by the disappearance of several major areas of civilization and a large reduction in population.


12 posted on 02/07/2016 2:15:21 PM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Purdue77

Thank you for that link. I actually saw that chat in s High School history class room... How education has changed.


13 posted on 02/07/2016 2:43:36 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Fai Mao

I was thinking along the line of T.E. Lawrence’s Brough Superior.


14 posted on 02/07/2016 2:45:44 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Hey Pope Francis- The Gospels are not Matthew, Marx, Luke and John.)
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To: Little Bill

I have looked around can’t find any thing about this in the non nut job world...

And you are looking for answers here?
This place is swarming with nut jobs driven insane
by political campaigning.

Hardly recognize the place.


15 posted on 02/07/2016 2:48:08 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68; Jim Robinson
This place is swarming with nut jobs driven insane by political campaigning. Hardly recognize the place.

That is the truth.

We have a handful of 24/7 posters here just relentless with Trump worship and Cruz demonization.

If you had told me a year ago that I could bet a dollar to win a hundred that Jim would allow this nonsense, I would not have risked a buck.

16 posted on 02/07/2016 2:58:26 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Little Bill

17 posted on 02/07/2016 3:00:32 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: tet68

Forget the Go Pat Go crowd in ‘99, drove me off for a while.


18 posted on 02/07/2016 4:03:14 PM PST by Little Bill (o)
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To: Little Bill

There is some recent research tying the rise and fall of civilizations with climate cycles. The global warming thing isn’t new, and it actually leads to civilization flourishing. It’s the onset of the colder times when civilizations crash.


19 posted on 02/07/2016 5:17:09 PM PST by henkster (Hillary Clinton's supporters are beginning to realize they are fettered to a corpse.)
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To: Little Bill

I believe that the traditional Chinese dynastic cycle is ~300 years, and there are similar cycles in Europe, India, and Mesopotamia. There are both social and climatic reasons for this cycle, and it is often weather events that are the trigger for the dynastic collapse.

An important note to any studies of cycles is that classical civilizations were frequently shattered by “hill tribes” who would replace the prior ruling classes. This would change in areas under European influence after the fifteenth century. The forces in Europe that pushed this change were technologies that made infantry dominant to cavalry (most of the “hill tribes” were actually steppe nomads), and the European habit of converting and making those tribes men from marginal lands part of the civilization.


20 posted on 02/07/2016 5:21:50 PM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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