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OREGON STANDOFF: 16 INDICTED, OMINOUS REPORTS FROM LOCAL HOSPITAL AND LOCAL MEDIA, FUNERAL TOMORROW
2/4/2016 | Self

Posted on 02/04/2016 5:03:19 AM PST by Nextrush

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To: Nextrush

I know where I’m not gonna be.


21 posted on 02/04/2016 6:32:04 AM PST by OKSooner (Once you understand that Barack Obama is not on America's side, everything that he does makes sense.)
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To: Vermont Lt
But they haven’t been able to explain their actions in a way that attracts followers.

I really don't know if that can be done, at least to people who live in more urban settings.

Sure, if you live on a ranch at the edge of an expanding Federal landholding, you'll understand (you're in the crosshairs).

If you live on a small patch of grass in a HOA, this probably won't make any sense to you. Meat comes from the store. Land is something you pay taxes on and the grass is what Mexicans mow in the summer or sell your teenagers, not to feed your means of making a living.

America isn't a nation of farmers/ranchers any more, so it just isn't relevant unless you get Keloed.

22 posted on 02/04/2016 6:40:42 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Good points and well said.


23 posted on 02/04/2016 7:06:28 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Nextrush

Folks things are about to blow up.


24 posted on 02/04/2016 7:10:50 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

M4L


25 posted on 02/04/2016 7:22:27 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: Nextrush
I've been thinking all week they were going to wait until Super Bowl weekend to do something, when all the sheeple are fixated on something else "more important."

That said, the kids left up there are just wrong and should have vacated with the others. It's my understanding that one of them was asked to leave at one point by the Bundys. (Weed, alcohol and Mormons don't usually mix too well.) They want to commit suicide and no one can talk them out of it. If the Feds are patient, they will starve them out and wait until they get cold, run out of weed, and start getting on each other's nerves. But the Feds have already proven that they are not patient.

26 posted on 02/04/2016 7:26:58 AM PST by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Instead, their reckless actions are going to lead to a bloody end that will be but a small footnote in history.

You mean, like LaVoy Finicum's "reckless action" of getting shot at during the first stop last week?

[Not the second stop, where he was killed.]

27 posted on 02/04/2016 7:28:08 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: humblegunner

“Probably more vanity threads.”

Good one! :^)


28 posted on 02/04/2016 7:33:41 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Nextrush

Kulaks
= = =

I hadn’t made the connection, but see more similarities as I ponder.

Soviets wanted their style of farming to replace industrious individual farmers.

Soviets imprisoned a lot, and killed the most industrious.

They still tried farming, but in this case the Feds/Govt/whoever pulls the strings wants to totally eliminate private for other purposes (uranium, solar, unprotected border).


29 posted on 02/04/2016 7:36:35 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: Nextrush

Amen.

Father, i’ll add my prayer that You please lend Your comfort, solace, wisdom and understanding to mr. finicum’s family and all the ranchers in this battle. Your will be done. We wait always on You and You alone. In Jesus Holy Name, Amen.


30 posted on 02/04/2016 7:49:59 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Nextrush

where is the family autopsy report...
was he shot in the hip on the left side?

lots of STUPID posts here...

1. The federal government has NO LEGAL RIGHT to land that was a territory and then became a state.. UNLESS there is a specific contract withthe state cedeing the alnd tothe FEDS
2. The Constitution specifically details WHAT LAND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE... for military basses and other specific needs... otherwise the land belngs to the State
3. In conflicts between a federal agency and citizens of the state THE LCOAL SHERIFF IS THE ONLY CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY...
4. The Federal government is engaged in an agenda to take more public lands and restrict their use
5. BLM let a fire get out of control and burned 110,000 ACRES INCLUDING PRIOVATE LAND AND BUILDINGS AND KILLED CATTLE....AND MADE NO RESTITUTION

So that is why BLM backed down in the previous encounter with BUNDY and the local sheriff in the HAMMOND protesters case SHOULD AHVE STEPPED IN..... BUT DIDN’T

so tell me....where is he FBIHRT (hostage rescue team consisting of multiple sourced snipers including navy seals, fib, marshalls, state and local cops)
WHEN LIBTARDS RIOT...???


31 posted on 02/04/2016 8:25:59 AM PST by zzwhale (YEP)
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To: Vermont Lt

“I used to get paid well for my communications and media relations skills”

WOW!!! And you include that statement why?
Because you know that you offer nothing other than criticism. How generous of you. In my sporting life and professional life in which I have been very, very successful, I have encountered many people like you.
You people are fine on the sidelines, making excuses that limit your involvement for one reason or another.
Criticize all you want. A man was murdered. A man that was a part of something larger than you will ever recognize. A man with history of involvement( something you won’t understand ) You are sad with your shriveled humanity.


32 posted on 02/04/2016 9:29:49 AM PST by free from tyranny
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To: free from tyranny

I am a journalist by training.

I was around in religious broadcasting when there was resistance to state education regulations in Nebraska.

I participated in special reporting by my religious broadcasting organization to chronicle the resistance of Faith Baptist Church in Louisville, NE.

Acts of civil disobedience were involved leading to the jailing of the pastor, jailing of fathers of school students, the padlocking of the church etc.

At one point in the conflict a group of supporting pastors told a judge they would remove the church padlock even though sheriffs deputies stationed inside were ordered to shoot anyone who did.

The judge ordered the padlock removed.

These steadfast acts of resistance drew support in the conservative religious community and forced the state to back down and President Ronald Reagan to urge a back down in a public speech before religious broadcasters in 1984.

It is my memory of those days in my youth, along with my later involvement in mainstream media following the Operation Rescue protests and the Republican Party operatives at National Right To Life opposing them plus my historical reading on the Democrat Party’s opposition from the JFK Administration to Dr. Martin Luther King’s protests that drive my daily vanity posts on this situation.


33 posted on 02/04/2016 10:03:18 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

There’s a gofundme for LaVoy’s funeral expenses.


34 posted on 02/04/2016 10:09:59 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: kiryandil

[[You mean, like LaVoy Finicum’s “reckless action” of getting shot at during the first stop last week?]]

Yes, he was very ‘reckless’ putting both hands out the window to show he didn’t have a gun in them- an obvious case for attempted execution


35 posted on 02/04/2016 10:13:30 AM PST by Bob434
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To: combat_boots

There is talk of a Pacific Patriot Network march on the refuge on Saturday to bring the people out safely....

That may be too late....


36 posted on 02/04/2016 10:48:36 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

Thank you for posting.


37 posted on 02/04/2016 10:52:44 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: free from tyranny

Well, you have read two paragraphs that I’ve written, and you know me? That is amazing. You should go to the track with that kind of psychic ability.

I have to ask..if you are “involved” how come you have time to write on here? They have Internet access in the occupied lands.

But, I was trying to give you advice, not criticism. Your “movement” is perceived to be a bunch of wannabe Tim McGiegh types. Here is my answer to you: if you want to be John Brown, you need a a Harper’s Ferry. I wish you well in your effort to take on the government. But, make sure your final arrangements are taken care of before you take them on.


38 posted on 02/04/2016 11:12:43 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Smokin' Joe

You need someone who can explain in a way that is not so condescending. Just because your chosen life might be different from mine, one is no more real than the other. When you write in such a holier than thou manner, you will garner no support from the rest of the country.

Why is it you guys cannot not accept constructive criticism? Do you want to win, or do you want to die?


39 posted on 02/04/2016 11:17:32 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: kiryandil

You all don’t get it. Folks standing around with guns talking revolution will get killed.

No one off the ranch understands what is going on. The reason is that your spokesmen come across as thugs. In general, the masses shrug you off just like the thugs that burned down Baltimore.

My criticism of your movement is not the “intent” of it, but the absolute failure to communicate a message that makes sense.

And arguing about a guy shot dead at a road block is not helping your cause.


40 posted on 02/04/2016 11:22:20 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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