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1 posted on 01/21/2016 12:48:17 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

“the world’s most-read newsweekly”

Which, in the internet age, is like being
the best bagpipes player in East St. Louis.


2 posted on 01/21/2016 12:51:09 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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I note that none of these fallacies address the rights and/or concerns of the father.


3 posted on 01/21/2016 1:02:40 PM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Morgana

I hope you don’t mind me posting this article here but it seemed so appropo.

7 things you didn’t know about Jane Roe of Roe v. Wade

http://liveactionnews.org/7-things-didnt-know-jane-roe-roe-v-wade/


4 posted on 01/21/2016 1:03:30 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To me anything about Roe v Wade being or not being a lie is quite irrelevant.

Only one argument stands IMO. Abortion is murder. Period.

Now when Planned Parent Hood starts butchering the murdered, we have a Nazi style Holocaust. Betcha the number of murdered babies since Roe V Wade exceeds the number of people the Nazis exterminated in their death camps.


6 posted on 01/21/2016 1:42:18 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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Thank you for referencing that article Morgana. As usual, please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

It is the Supreme Courts job to decide if an issue is constitutional or unconstitutional. But what pro-abortion activist justices wrongly ignored about what the Constitution indicates about the so-called right to have an abortion is this.

The states have never amended the Constitution to include the word abortion. And not only did the Founding States make the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitutions silence about things like abortion means that such issues are automatically and uniquely state power issues, but it also means that the so-called PC right to have an abortion is not a constitutionally enumerated right as evidenced by the rights expressly protected by the Bill of Rights and other amendments.

So the states have the 10th Amendment-protected power to make laws which limit or prohibit the constitutionally unenumerated ”right” to have an abortion imo, regardless what activist justices want low-information citizens to think about the issue.

The problem is that pro-abortion activist justices not only stole legislative powers to establish the so-called right to have an abortion from the bench, but they breached the Founding States division of state and federal government powers and stole unique state legislative powers to do so.

Remember in November !

When patriots elect Trump, or whatever conservative they elect, they will also need to elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will be willing to not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the president, but also be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.


7 posted on 01/21/2016 1:54:41 PM PST by Amendment10
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Irrelevant. More babies will be fed into the shredder. The deaths will continue. IF the salad munching God hating baby parts broker videos will not stop abortion, NOTHING will.


10 posted on 01/21/2016 3:40:39 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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The writer misstates a couple of crucial facts, facts that go the heart of the matter, and then fails to identify the main fallacy of Roe.

Roe v. Wade is the Supreme Court decision, along with its companion case Doe v. Bolton, that legalized ending a pre-born baby's life for any reason, at any stage of development. For the past 43 years, Roe v. Wade has been the "law of the land" as some of our congressmen have stated many times during recent hearings investigating Planned Parenthood.

To cede that kind of power to the court is to surrender our very form of government. Courts were never granted the power to make laws, and their opinions are not the law of the land. The Constitution, which just so happens to absolutely require equal protection for the right to life of every person, is the law of the land. Abortion is not legal, and as soon as you say that it is, you've sold the babies down the river. All of them.

The only really important fallacy of Roe that anyone needs to focus on is its fallacious claim that the "fetus," or child is not a person.

The truth is, it is a self-evident natural fact that they are a person. There is not even one tiny shadow of doubt that this is the physical reality. And our supreme law in this country absolutely requires that they be protected, in every jurisdiction.

"[I]f the policy of the Government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made in ordinary litigation between parties in personal actions the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their Government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."

-- President Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address

"The question whether the judges are invested with exclusive authority to decide on the constitutionality of a law has been heretofore a subject of consideration with me in the exercise of official duties. Certainly there is not a word in the Constitution which has given that power to them more than to the Executive or Legislative branches."

-- Thomas Jefferson to W. H. Torrance, 1815. ME 14:303

"The Constitution... meant that its coordinate branches should be checks on each other. But the opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch."

-- Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1804. ME 11:51

"To consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have with others the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. Their maxim is boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem [good justice is broad jurisdiction], and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves."

-- Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:277

"In denying the right [the Supreme Court usurps] of exclusively explaining the Constitution, I go further than [others] do, if I understand rightly [this] quotation from the Federalist of an opinion that 'the judiciary is the last resort in relation to the other departments of the government, but not in relation to the rights of the parties to the compact under which the judiciary is derived.' If this opinion be sound, then indeed is our Constitution a complete felo de se [act of suicide]. For intending to establish three departments, coordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this opinion, to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one, too, which is unelected by and independent of the nation. For experience has already shown that the impeachment it has provided is not even a scare-crow... The Constitution on this hypothesis is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please."

--Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819. ME 15:212


12 posted on 01/21/2016 4:23:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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