Posted on 01/15/2016 12:03:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Ted Cruz showed remarkable fighting spirit in the Republican presidential debate last night, lacing Donald Trump with the same kind of brilliant and witty lines that he's used in his fights against Mitch McConnell.
When Trump's bogus charges against Cruz's eligibility to be president were raised, Cruz turned the tables on him, remarking that Trump had no problems with his eligibility several months earlier, giving this incredible one liner:
Since September, the Constitution hasn't changed, but the poll numbers have.
Trump looked very uncomfortable at that. But Cruz was just beginning. He even pointed out that Trump's own mother was not a "natural born" citizen, and that the same tinfoil hat crowd challenging his own eligibility could challenge Trump's. The crowd roared with laughter.
When Cruz pressed Trump on why he was pushing this issue now, Trump admitted it was because Cruz was doing better in the polls, and the crowd roared.
The audience was clearly on Cruz's side, booing Trump not once, but several times when Trump pushed his birther argument.
Cruz also made the point that Trump was relying on Harvard Law professor Larry Tribe, a far leftist who supports Hillary Clinton for president.
Trump was made to look small and petty as Cruz came out as the first candidate to challenge Trump in a debate and beat him.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
".....Trump has argued that Democrats could bring a lawsuit against Cruz serving in the White House because of his birth in Canada to an American mother.
When asked by Fox Business Network moderator Neil Cavuto why he wanted to bring the issue up now, Trump was open about the fact that it was because of Cruz's rising poll numbers.
"Because now he's doing a little bit better. No, I didn't care before, it's true," Trump said to boos from the audience.
Cruz pushed back once again by noting his service as Texas's solicitor general.
"I've spent my entire life defending the Constitution before the U.S. Supreme Court and I'll tell you, I'm not going to be taking legal advice from Donald Trump," he said.
When Trump noted that his former Harvard Law professor Lawrence Tribe agrees with him, Cruz brushed that aside too.
"Let me tell you who Larry Tribe is - he's a left-wing, judicial activist, Harvard law professor who was Al Gore's lawyer in Bush v. Gore, he's a major Hillary Clinton supporter and there's a reason why Hillary's supporters are echoing Donald's attacks on me - because Hillary wants to face Donald Trump in the general election," he said.
"If this all works out, I'm happy to consider naming you as VP so if you happen to be right, you can get the top job at the end of the day," Cruz joked.
Trump said he'd likely keep building buildings in such a scenario."
I don't think he has a broad enough appeal to win at this time however.
IMO if he runs as Trump's VP he is almost certain to win the top spot after a single Trump term. (I don't think DJT would want a 2nd term)
Go Trump!!
Go Cruz!!
You must have watched a different debate, I saw Ted Cruz double down on his abominable ‘New York values’ gambit, and the crowd didn’t go for it, but whatever gets you through the night CW, if you’re beginning to like Cruz, that is a dangerous sign, considering your kiss of death which resulted in Rick Perry and Scott Walker flaming out, you do recall that don’t you? LOL
And, as you can see by the original post of this thread, Donald Trump has rejected being on the ticket with Ted Cruz.
As I posted to another thread:
Do you remember all the American flags flying after 9-11?
Well, of course you do.
I still keep one on my car (had to replace it once). When I go out to the parking lot now, it is the only car with an American flag on it.
I do remember.
It wasn’t just NY and NYC that rose up, it was the entire country.
Cruz was poking Trump in the chest about his use of Alinsky tactics - promoting liberal talking points.
Trump (to boos) said the “birther” matter hadn’t concerned him before but now that Cruz is moving up he had made the tactical decision to use it (paraphrasing).
You focus on only part of the debate. Cruz did get on Trump just as Cincinatus’ Wife said, and he also talked about the “New York values”.
But the vast majority of Americans really agree with the “New York” statement, all of us fly-over people. And there is little chance for either of them to carry New York anyway, especially Manhattan.
Politics makes for strange bedfellows...
I still hope for and expect a Trump/Cruz ticket :-)
Please leave off the personal attacks. You can make your point quite eloquently without attacking a fellow FReeper.
Your posting tactic of labeling anyone who doesn’t support Trump as a “hater” is tiresome, overused and completely bogus.
But that’s what you do.
[[Cruz was poking Trump in the chest about his use of Alinsky tactics - promoting liberal talking points.]]
Precisely- that sums it up beautifully-
Hey Sparky, it’s not an ‘attack’ if it’s true.
CW has the enviable record of choosing candidates, liking them, and then watching them drop out.
If someone can’t handle that, they need to grow a thicker hide.
“Politics ain’t beanbag”
~ Finley Peter Dunne
Deal with it.
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE 6TH REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
BUSH
1%
3,156 votes
CARSON
2%
3,191 votes
CHRISTIE
2%
4,084 votes
CRUZ
30%
63,685 votes
KASICH
2%
3,495 votes
RUBIO
7%
15,086 votes
TRUMP
56%
118,672 votes
211,369 Total Votes
Give the forum your history - who you’ve supported.
Except Trump is right, Cruz is not a natural born citizen. Trump is.
Is that a scientific poll?
No.
Take responsibility for your actions and words.
It doesn't matter much, to the political process, if a candidate pulling 2% of the vote is unqualified. That person isn't going to be elected. As a candidate's probability of getting elected improves, it is more important to vet his qualifications . That relationship is important both to close opponents (where two or three have a chance of winning), and to the election process without regard to who the opponents are.
After all, if the people elect an unqualified candidate, that sort of screws up the peoples "right to choose."
Presidential elections are one place where the proof of qualification comes LAST. There is no need to prove qualification in order to run, only to assert it.
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