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How one firefighter made $210K in OT
san diego union tribune ^ | 9 Jan 2016 | Lauryn Schroeder 9 Jan 2016

Posted on 01/10/2016 8:38:58 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

One San Diego firefighter was paid $210,500 in overtime alone in 2014, according to newly released figures about local government payrolls.

"It's a little extra bonus for the guys,"

(Excerpt) Read more at sandiegouniontribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Humor; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: firefighter; sandiego
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Nice work if you can get it!

For the taxpayers, to bad so sad!

1 posted on 01/10/2016 8:38:58 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Doesn’t end here. He will retire after boosting his last year’s employment with overtime, accrued sick leave, accrued vacation at age 55 with a $200,000+ annual pension with full medical coverage. Public service employees are the true 1% here in California.


2 posted on 01/10/2016 8:43:43 AM PST by artichokegrower
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Think of the $$$$$ taxpayers could have saved if the fire dept. was better managed. Simply hire more firemen.


3 posted on 01/10/2016 8:45:57 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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Or....dispose of the silly rule that to dispatch an ambulance means dispatching one or more fire trucks.

I give grudging credit to the building code and to fire suppression systems but actual we-have-to-put-this-out fires are rare. On the other hand, every time Granny slips on the sidewalk a pumper truck accompanies the ambulance to the site.

WHY?!?!?!?!

4 posted on 01/10/2016 9:00:39 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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The muder weapon was an Oldsmobile. Obama and Hillary will now want to ban all Oldsmobiles!

Probably not. In most cases you are better off paying OT than hiring more workers.

SS taxes, retirement fund payments and insurance cost raises the cost of more workers to the point of making it impossible to hire more workers.

5 posted on 01/10/2016 9:09:59 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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He will retire after boosting his last year's employment with overtime

That's exactly how the system is gamed. Retirement formulas generally make some sense, but then they are distorted by overtime and the like. And the solution is so simple. Make your retirement pay based on your base pay only.

6 posted on 01/10/2016 9:11:23 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Pontiac

Teddy Kennedy used and Oldsmobile as a weapon also.


7 posted on 01/10/2016 9:16:56 AM PST by umgud
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To: relictele

Most Firefighters on the firetruck are trained Medic’s who have all the equipment necessary to assist the patient except for means of transport. Sometimes their response time is quicker depending on the location of the ambulance.


8 posted on 01/10/2016 9:33:36 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: relictele

Because granny on the sidewalk often weighs 400lbs these days.


9 posted on 01/10/2016 9:39:35 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: relictele

Shhhh! You are going to kill the job!


10 posted on 01/10/2016 9:41:08 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: relictele
They dispatch a fire truck for extra help. It's not simply make work job security. The VFD's in my rural Tennessee area also are responders to ambulance calls depending on the call.

My mom fell a year ago and I got her up in the chair. She had the Flu and was real weak. I didn't want to chance taking her to the ER myself due to the outside Temps and ice in her driveway. I had concern she would fall again and I would not be able to get her in the car or I would fall and we would both be down. So I called an ambulance on their regular phone number. I also said non emergency. The VFD's got there first and I didn't know they had been dispatched.

They dispatch FD's for things you don't think about but they do from experience. Needed extra lifting help, locked doors, an extra onboard paramedic on site if they get there and need two persons going to the hospital working with the patient in cases like CPR. In general it's a good policy that helps save lives. Many Fireman are medically cross trained.

11 posted on 01/10/2016 9:49:42 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Aquamarine

With respect, that confirms the answer is more ambulances and fewer fire trucks, especially when the truck is more expensive to maintain and operate and carries 6 persons when only 2 are attending the patient.


12 posted on 01/10/2016 9:52:17 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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Besides, if firefighters did not get called out on things like this, what would they get called out for? Actual fires where you have to hook up the hoses and go into a burning building are few and far between (unless maybe you were in The Bronx during the 1970s). No firefighter likes to hear this as they would like us to think that they are bravely rescuing women and children from burning structures day after day when in reality, the typical day is "cat up a tree" type stuff.

You'd have firefighters holed up in their stations for weeks at a time with nothing going on. Getting them involved in other types of calls keeps them sharper and more alert in my opinion - even though there is undoubtably a lot more expense involved.

13 posted on 01/10/2016 9:56:03 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: relictele
You would have to know the inner working’s of how ISO ratings are achieved to provide the most cost effective system to it's citizens.
14 posted on 01/10/2016 10:02:18 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: relictele

The fire trucks will get roughly the same MPG fuel wise as the ambulance due to engine vs weight issues. Some FD’s use a SUV or utility truck for Medical assist calls like my VFD does. The FD in the case of paid FD’s are already on the clock and they can break away to a fire call if needed. Thus no added cost in employees. LIke I posted the VFD’s in my state respond to many ambulance calls. Most ambulances do not carry forced entry equipment. Also usually only emergency calls result in FD dispatch and some non emergency if Dispatch believes or the crew believes conditions or situation warrants. It’s better to have a full crew and be able to get say a heart attack patient out and on the way than wait for a second assist to arrive.


15 posted on 01/10/2016 10:03:11 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: SamAdams76

Agreed. It’s good training and makes for a good use of their non fire fighting time. The expense though vs hiring extra paramedics and vehicles I would say using the FD is likely cheaper and a better use of resources long term. Diesels will go on forever. Or rather more miles than they will ever see even in double duty use.


16 posted on 01/10/2016 10:07:06 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: SamAdams76

If the FD is rural and not around a big city like San Diego or Atlanta for instance they may have extra time on their hands but all Firefighters are required to maintain equipment, have training, continued education along with house duties.


17 posted on 01/10/2016 10:16:07 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: relictele

I remember why they dispatched the VFD now. My moms house has a wooden bridge suitable for car and light pick up traffic but not for the weight of an ambulance. Thus the paramedics had to roll her about 300 ft to the ambulance. Six VFD’s showed up from the station in one utility vehicle and they were the first ones there.


18 posted on 01/10/2016 10:16:46 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Aquamarine

Cost effective? This is government we’re talking about.


19 posted on 01/10/2016 10:23:26 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: cva66snipe

There’s nothing like extra manpower you need it especially when they get no or little pay for the job as Volunteer Firefighters. You have to admire their dedication.


20 posted on 01/10/2016 10:24:17 AM PST by Aquamarine
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