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1 posted on 01/09/2016 3:21:41 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: Deceit is at the very core of progressivism. They wouldn't be progressives, they wouldn't "make progress" without masking their true intent.

2 posted on 01/09/2016 3:24:08 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to the historians anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
IMO ... in the sixties

It was late 60's, early seventies I started contemplating language and how it was being manipulated

4 posted on 01/09/2016 3:33:53 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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With all due respect ProgressingAmerica, if I understand you correctly please consider the following.

The states are free to abuse their 10th Amendment-protected powers to practice Social Darwinism to blow their feet off with socialistic, redistribute the wealth laws, as long as such laws do not abridge citizens constitutionally enumerated protections which is prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

I have no problems with any state blowing itself out of the water as a consequence of going broke because low-information voters were tricked into following socialistic fantasies. We simply remove a star from the flag for each state that does so.

But what low-information socialists like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton never admit is that the Founding States never meant for socialists to experiment with wealth redistribution at the national level. This is because the federal governments constitutionally limited powers simply do not permit the feds to experiment with social spending programs.

In fact, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers. This is evidenced by the following excerpt.

”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

5 posted on 01/09/2016 3:57:36 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ProgressingAmerica

California, Howard Jarvis, proposition 13 is revered.


6 posted on 01/09/2016 4:22:53 PM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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I believe IR&R originated in Wisconsin and was codified into law in several other states.
7 posted on 01/09/2016 10:06:24 PM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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