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Something I Don’t Quite Understand About Guns.
January 8, 2015 | Vanity

Posted on 01/08/2016 2:31:56 PM PST by yetidog

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To: headstamp 2
'I will not license my chainsaw.'

*chuckle* Me, either.


21 posted on 01/08/2016 2:45:34 PM PST by Viking2002 (The Avatar is back by popular request.)
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To: headstamp 2

There ya go! Down that path to knives, cooking equipment, tools, and so on.


22 posted on 01/08/2016 2:47:59 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: yetidog

The Second Amendment enumerates a God-given right, not a privilege like a drivers license. No entity has a right to infringe in any way via training classes or otherwise. We have let politicians erode our freedom for a false sense of security. The Government will never protect us and they have no want to protect us. They want power and control over our lives. History has proved this.

There may be idiots out there who have no idea how to handle or operate their weapon but I am more than willing to take that chance in my life. I refuse to wring my hands in fear of possibilities. Life is short as it is and I will not spend it worrying about stuff like that. I do not want or need to cocoon myself in bubble wrap and fear the least little thing.

I would rather die free than live as a serf.


23 posted on 01/08/2016 2:49:08 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: SolidRedState

Sort of like the basic freedom of speech but the powers that be want 3 written copies , double spaced, in black ink 10 days before you can say it.


24 posted on 01/08/2016 2:49:57 PM PST by Cyman
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To: yetidog

Have you gone out and killed anybody?

No?

See? Background checks work.


25 posted on 01/08/2016 2:51:18 PM PST by umgud
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To: yetidog

Because the lefties would twist the new rule so that it would be impossible for anyone to purchase a firearm.


26 posted on 01/08/2016 2:51:30 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I?)
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To: ColdOne
I lost all my guns on a fishing trip on the Salmon river a few years ago. It was horrible. We looked for days. I miss them.

I lost all my guns in a terrible speed boat accident and fire, next last week. It was a total loss. So sad.

27 posted on 01/08/2016 2:56:06 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: SolidRedState

You must not go to the gun range much. Scares the (beep) out of me every time I see a ‘new’ firearm owner waving around a loaded gun, clueless about safety.

I don’t have a problem with a safety class requirement before getting your very first gun. And a Concealed Carry class with the laws covered before one of those permits are issued. Both of those are common sense to me.

Not everyone has been in the military or has someone to teach them about firearms.


28 posted on 01/08/2016 2:58:03 PM PST by tazman3
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To: yetidog
but it does amaze me someone can purchase a firearm under the broad assumption that the buyer just knows how to use it.

I can't remember the last car dealership that made me take a driving class. I don't get asked at Home Depot if I know how to use that shovel and a class to teach me to call before I dig. I don't get asked at the store if I know how to cook that steak (though a overcooked steak is a crime against humanity). I once rented a canoe and didn't get asked if I knew how to use it. I have been asked at Papa Murphy's if I have cooked their Pizza before (as if that is a complicated affair).

When you pay someone for something in a sense they work for you. So why should I pay money to be harassed? I'd boycott any gun buyer that even suggested such nonsense. You can bet if I'm going to buy it, I'm going to read the manual and learn how to clean it, learn where the safety is etc.

I've been shooting since I was six; I've never had a formal class per se (well I guess I did, on how to clean an AR); instead I had a real red blooded American Dad to teach me.

I don't know about other states Idaho requires a hunting class before you can get your license that covers much of the safety aspects of shooting. That is a little easier to swallow than what you are proposing.

At the end of the day, you can't legislate parental and personal responsibility.

29 posted on 01/08/2016 2:58:10 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: yetidog

well now, a lot of common items on a hardware store shelf can be as dangerous as a gun if mis-applied or ignorantly used. do you want to infringe (i.e., require involuntary training, etc.) all those over the counter products too. if so you’re with the gov’t.

the “gun industry’s” job is to provide the best, functional product at the market price they can ask for. period. the
gun industry is on the hook for the claims the make about their products. outside of that, if you’re a conservative, the entire responsibility for correctly and safely operating any product is on you. period.


30 posted on 01/08/2016 2:59:57 PM PST by dadfly
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To: yetidog

The 2nd Amendment says you don’t need no steenking orientation. what’r you a hoser? Eh? :-)


31 posted on 01/08/2016 3:00:42 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: sagar

Agreed! Its what freedom is all about. The right to shoot yourself in the foot.


32 posted on 01/08/2016 3:03:46 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: yetidog
The gun shop I managed way back when, offered gun training classes. Very few people took advantage of them. Local shooting ranges had NRA certified classes as well.

There were required classes in gun and hunter safety to get a hunting license.

When firearms purchasing licensing came into vogue in California, the potential buyer had to pass a test to qualify and demonstrate firearms handling familiarity.

33 posted on 01/08/2016 3:05:08 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: tazman3

A better solution would be to reinstate firearm training in schools.

We don’t need anymore REQUIREMENTS to exercise a right.


34 posted on 01/08/2016 3:06:21 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: yetidog
orientation training... You have to be kidding. Point the damn thing in the direction of your enemy and let loose. Results will vary. I will admit that many ass-hats buy firearms. Because they didn't have Dads who taught them right from wrong. Firearms are tools, and you have to learn how to use a tool!
35 posted on 01/08/2016 3:07:57 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: yetidog

Just about all gun laws including background checks are a clear violation of the Bill of Rights.


36 posted on 01/08/2016 3:08:46 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yetidog

the second amendment was not written to provide hunters with firearms equal to the game being persued..

it was written to allow a citizenship to overthrow a government gone rogue.....

with that in mind ( and please read the federalist papers for further explaination)..

ANY AND ALL WEAPONS THAT THE MILITARY POSSESSES, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY NOT ONLY HAVE THE RIGHT, BUT THE DUTY TO POSSESS..

this includes, automatic weapons, large capacity magazines, grenades, mortars, cannon, rockets, tanks, warships and aircraft capable of defeating the population of this great country...

when the revolution was fought, our fledging country did not possess warships or cannon..

these items were LEASED from private owners..

in a way, we had more rights under the crown than we do now..

think about that and give me an answer...


37 posted on 01/08/2016 3:09:22 PM PST by joe fonebone (gay people do not bother me.... fags do...)
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To: yetidog

I know a lot of NRA-certified instructors (including myself), and I can’t think of even one who approves of compelling decent people to act against their will. I recommend the NRA basic courses as an absolute minimum to new shooters, but free Americans should make that decision for themselves. To force someone to take a course against his will, as a precondition to the exercise of a God-given individual human right, would be an act of evil. That path is supposed to be for democrats only.

As for “profit”, those I know in the gun culture mostly see profit as restricted to earning money honestly. If someone is compelled to buy your service, you are not earning the money. You’re just robbing them, and co-opting the government into forcing them to hand over their money.


38 posted on 01/08/2016 3:10:26 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“In my state, you have to take a class before being eligible to apply for any permit.”

Yes, mine too.

“Also in my state, a handgun permit doubles as a concealed-carry license, which makes it harder for many people (depending on what town/county they live in) to get a handgun permit at all. “

Yes, mine too.

Your rights are not conditional on government approval, they are granted by the Creator and protected by the government (supposed to).


39 posted on 01/08/2016 3:10:42 PM PST by Hulka
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To: yetidog

Many dealers do offer familiarization classes and many first time buyers take them up on it. But it shouldn’t be mandatory.


40 posted on 01/08/2016 3:17:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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