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Something I Don’t Quite Understand About Guns.
January 8, 2015 | Vanity

Posted on 01/08/2016 2:31:56 PM PST by yetidog

I own guns. All except one were purchased from a dealer with the required background check.


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I own guns. All except one were purchased with the required background check. The exception was given to me by a family member. Having laid out my credentials, what I don’t understand is why defenders of the 2nd Amendment don’t turn this issue into more money than the gun industry is already making from Obama’s misplaced executive orders. For instance, Why don’t dealers and the NRA offer orientation training as a first gun purchase condition? I know there are a variety of classes for shooting enthusiasts, but it does amaze me someone can purchase a firearm under the broad assumption that the buyer “just knows how to: use it. I know that from among my several firearms, each is unique in terms of breakdown, sighting, safety operation (if so equipped), grip, loading features etc. How many among us have ready aimed and not fired due to a safety feature still on..or wondered where that little spring goes? Such orientation would go a long way towards the issue of credibility and likely generate new revenue streams for sellers and advocates of firearms. It may well save a life or two as well.
1 posted on 01/08/2016 2:31:56 PM PST by yetidog
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To: yetidog

Shall not be infringed. Any requirement is infringement.


2 posted on 01/08/2016 2:33:53 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: yetidog

“Why don’t dealers and the NRA offer orientation training as a first gun purchase condition?”

Because that would make your God-given right conditional on government approval.


3 posted on 01/08/2016 2:34:18 PM PST by Hulka
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To: SolidRedState
Shall not be infringed. Any requirement is infringement.

But we CONSENT to this every time we walk into a gun store and submit to said un-Cosntitutional background checks. The only winners here are the FFL dealers, who are laughing all the way to the bank, with our money.

4 posted on 01/08/2016 2:35:16 PM PST by dware (Everybody wants to be a patriot, until it's time to do patriot stuff.)
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To: yetidog

YouTube....


5 posted on 01/08/2016 2:35:33 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: yetidog

Guns usually come with owners manuals. If not, the manuals are commonly found online.

I offered a new gun owner course (basic pistol safety) once, and only got two people to attend at about $30 each, as I recall.

Most of what you suggest will be explained with purchase at the better gun stores.


6 posted on 01/08/2016 2:35:59 PM PST by marktwain
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To: yetidog

I will not license my chainsaw.


7 posted on 01/08/2016 2:36:51 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: yetidog

Even if there is statistically more likely that you die from having/owning guns than preventing your death, the Constitutional right cannot be denied. I think any restriction on firearms, including military grade weapons, is anti-freedom and anti-Constitutional.


8 posted on 01/08/2016 2:37:21 PM PST by sagar
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To: yetidog

I had a gun but it fell off the canoe in a windstorm. I couldn’t find it in the lake. I can’t remember the name of the lake. Someplace in Minnesota.

It was scary. I’m okay now.


9 posted on 01/08/2016 2:38:01 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: yetidog

I don’t require hitting in of your arbitrary wickets to speak as I please, worship as I please, or bear arms.


10 posted on 01/08/2016 2:39:30 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: yetidog

The shops that have indoor ranges here do so. Otherwise, the shops refer folks to ranges that have shown an interest in assisting new shooters. My local clays range not only has clinics, but volunteer instructors who will help out for no charge. I’ve gotten a fair number of shooters to go from complete novice to shooting in registered matches by just taking the time to help them learn the basics.


11 posted on 01/08/2016 2:40:29 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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If the dealer couldn’t explain the operation of the device to me, I wouldn’t buy it. I expect a car salesman to show me how to turn the lights on and off, how to open the gas filler door, where the wiper is, and how to operate the radio. Before I give him any money. If you don’t require the same of your gun dealer, it may be your fault, not his.


12 posted on 01/08/2016 2:41:00 PM PST by PAR35
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To: yetidog

I lost all my guns on a fishing trip on the Salmon river a few years ago. It was horrible. We looked for days. I miss them.


13 posted on 01/08/2016 2:41:35 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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Why don't dealers and the NRA offer orientation training as a first gun purchase condition? Why don't stationary stores require that you be trained in proper grammar before you are allowed to purchase paper and pen?
14 posted on 01/08/2016 2:42:25 PM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: kinsman redeemer

WOW. I am sorry to hear of your woes. I know there are several FReepers, who have lost their guns in boating accidents. Perhaps someone should invent some type of floatation device for them? (JK)


15 posted on 01/08/2016 2:42:28 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: yetidog

The NRA offers all kinds of training.

Most dealers if asked and they know will give you a basic how to use.

No need for mandatory training.


16 posted on 01/08/2016 2:42:41 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: yetidog

A guy bought a car from me one time and he did not know how to drive.
I did not think it was my responsibility to teach him.


17 posted on 01/08/2016 2:43:30 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: yetidog

I’m all in favor of people voluntarily learning how to handle firearms safely and successfully. I’m all in favor of the NRA and other private entities teaching folks how to handle firearms safely and successfully. The private sector can and does handle this matter effectively and efficiently.

The government needs to stay the hell out of it.

“... shall not be infringed.”

End of discussion.


18 posted on 01/08/2016 2:44:00 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: SolidRedState; Hulka
I don't think the OP is suggesting a law -- my impression is that he wants gun stores to do this on their own.

The truth is, though, that a firearm isn't all that complicated. 1) It's dangerous when it goes bang, so don't point it at anything. 2) If you pull that littler lever, it goes bang. See 1) if you have any questions about this. That's pretty much it. As far as field-stripping and cleaning a particular firearm, there are probably multiple videos detailing the processing for just about any gun you can imagine, on youtube.

In my state, you have to take a class before being eligible to apply for any permit. Also in my state, a handgun permit doubles as a concealed-carry license, which makes it harder for many people (depending on what town/county they live in) to get a handgun permit at all. The salesman has to demonstrate the operation of the firearm you want to buy to you, and you have to sign a form certifying that you've been so instructed and now understand how the thing works. As you might have already guessed, I live in a pretty blue state, and for all the requirements listed above, I don't think our firearm death/accident rate here is lower than in states with less requirements.

19 posted on 01/08/2016 2:44:03 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: dware

Some of us don’t consent, even in that way.


20 posted on 01/08/2016 2:44:03 PM PST by ExGeeEye (Mohammed was a war mongering pedophile rapist who started a Satanic death cult. Arrest me, Lynch.)
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