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Navy Air Strike North Vietnam
Naval History ^ | December 2015 | Vice Admiral Robert F. Dunn, USN (Retired)

Posted on 12/30/2015 12:07:12 PM PST by Retain Mike

Success would be achieved when the offensive forced the North Vietnamese to meet at the negotiating table and stop supporting the Viet Cong. U.S. Air Force, Navy, and Marine airmen flying from bases in Thailand and South Vietnam and from aircraft carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin were to apply that pressure in the North by disrupting supply routes and destroying resources that facilitated aggression in the South. Specific targets included electric power, war-supporting industry, transportation, military complexes, petroleum storage facilities, and air defenses.

Unfortunately, the campaign was compromised and circumscribed by unprecedented micromanagement emanating from the White House and the Pentagon and relayed through the cumbersome chain of command to the pilots and aircrewmen trying to do their jobs in the actual theater of war. At the start of the campaign, prohibited bombing zones were established around Hanoi and Haiphong, within 25 to 30 miles of the Chinese border, and in other areas. There was also a requirement for specific approval from Washington and the commander-in-chief, Pacific, in Hawaii to strike individual targets above the 19th parallel, which was about 175 miles north of the Demilitarized Zone separating North and South Vietnam..

Most aircrews were not particularly discomfited with such rules. That was more a bother for commanders. Flying one or two combat flights each day, the aircrews on the line had enough to do with the missions available. It was the weather that more directly affected them. During long periods of the year, November through March, monsoon-driven fog and overcast precluded visual strikes, and the only truly all-weather aircraft, the A-6 Intruder, was just making its first appearance. In these frequent bad-weather periods the North Vietnamese had ample opportunity to rebuild roads and bridges, replenish munitions, and send support south.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; tonkingulf; vietnamwar
Here is something for you airdale Vietnam vets.
1 posted on 12/30/2015 12:07:12 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

This AT2 thanks you for the post.


2 posted on 12/30/2015 12:13:14 PM PST by VR-21
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To: Retain Mike; ASA Vet; Travis McGee

Kudos to the Navy, Marine, Airforce and Army vets, who did their best with heavy losses.

Unfortunately, the ROE’s that the bastards LBJ and Mack the Knife set up, made their efforts not that effective. Like the bastards in the White Hut now, LBJ and Mack made it impossible for us to defeat and not really hurt North Vietnam as shown from the link you posted from.

“Unfortunately, the campaign was compromised and circumscribed by unprecedented micromanagement emanating from the White House and the Pentagon and relayed through the cumbersome chain of command to the pilots and air crewmen trying to do their jobs in the actual theater of war. At the start of the campaign, prohibited bombing zones were established around Hanoi and Haiphong, within 25 to 30 miles of the Chinese border, and in other areas. There was also a requirement for specific approval from Washington and the commander-in-chief, Pacific, in Hawaii to strike individual targets above the 19th parallel, which was about 175 miles north of the Demilitarized Zone separating North and South Vietnam..”


3 posted on 12/30/2015 12:27:53 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Boy did my father hate Johnson. Me too when I learned about him when I got older


4 posted on 12/30/2015 12:34:09 PM PST by dp0622 (i)
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To: dp0622

Most of us with at least bit of common sense hated LBJ for what he did to America and our men/women in the military risking their lives and limbs 24/7.


5 posted on 12/30/2015 12:48:25 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: dp0622

The two peas-in-a-pod included Robert Strange McNamara - who true to his name, was equally disliked.


6 posted on 12/30/2015 12:50:49 PM PST by Cribb
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To: Retain Mike

The Un-Holy Trinity for my Dad in those days:

LBJ

MacNamara

Jane Fonda

He hated all three, but Fonda was more equal than the others.


7 posted on 12/30/2015 12:54:24 PM PST by TTFlyer
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To: TTFlyer

i like ti include John Kerry as well.


8 posted on 12/30/2015 12:58:46 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Grampa Dave

I loved my part putting Marine F-4J Phantoms In the Air every day.


9 posted on 12/30/2015 1:39:52 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks for your service and keeping the Marine Air Jocks in flyable.

Happy New Year!


10 posted on 12/30/2015 3:22:11 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: Retain Mike

LBJ

MacNamara

Jane Fonda

John Kerry

America’s enemies at home, and the NVNs best buds!


11 posted on 12/30/2015 3:25:37 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks!


12 posted on 12/30/2015 4:02:24 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Retain Mike

For it’s time, the F-4 Phantom II was the perfect aerial weapon. Hasn’t been an all-purpose plane since. (IMHO)


13 posted on 12/31/2015 3:42:43 PM PST by Dartman (Notice how Obama and Trudeau are the only two who call ISIS, ISIL? Hmmm ...)
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