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When the Takers Make More than the Makers
American Thinker ^ | 30 Dec, 2015 | Gene Van Son

Posted on 12/30/2015 10:58:01 AM PST by MtnClimber

When I was a lad way back in the 60s my father gave me some career planning advice -- "If you want to make money go to work in the private sector, but if you want job security go to work in the public sector. The public sector doesn’t pay as well as the private sector but the benefits are good and you'll never have to worry about getting laid off."

My father's advice made sense. Government employees are 'public servants' and servants are not supposed to make more than their employers. But that was then and this is now. The times have changed.

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1 posted on 12/30/2015 10:58:01 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The takers are running the show these days.


2 posted on 12/30/2015 10:58:32 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

An unwed mother with 3 kids can make about $55 thousand in welfare and other benefits here, according to a study done in the past year. (You max out at 3 kids, which is why they all get pregnant with that number.)


3 posted on 12/30/2015 11:02:14 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: MtnClimber

When the takers make more than the makers, they’re called “royalty”.


4 posted on 12/30/2015 11:03:24 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: kaehurowing

by the third kid there is a better term for her than unwed mother.


5 posted on 12/30/2015 11:04:11 AM PST by dp0622 (i)
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To: MtnClimber

I don’t really mind the public sector “government” jobs. Even when they pay twice as much as the private sector. With less results and more waste.

It’s a far sight better than the Welfare Nation we know have that pays people to squirt out more babies and enjoy their EBT cars while watching The View on their 55 inch big screen.


6 posted on 12/30/2015 11:04:16 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: rightwingcrazy

“Welfare Brood Mare” comes to mind.


7 posted on 12/30/2015 11:05:27 AM PST by rhubarbk (Crush Hillary in 2016)
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To: dp0622

“Welfare Brood Mare” comes to mind.

I got the right reply this time . . . sorry!


8 posted on 12/30/2015 11:06:41 AM PST by rhubarbk (Crush Hillary in 2016)
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9 posted on 12/30/2015 11:06:59 AM PST by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: MtnClimber

For every taker that receives without producing, a maker produces without receiving. They both learn the same lesson: It doesn’t pay to produce.

The political redistributors don’t care as long as they get today’s votes, but sooner or later the country runs out of producers. The political class then must find new resources to redistribute through other ways - import low wage workers, war, etc., or direct blame for the lack of resources elsewhere - the 1%, Jews, etc.


10 posted on 12/30/2015 11:26:54 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: MtnClimber

This is why I sadly conclude the only hope is for a currency crisis / Government bankruptcy. It would actually be good for the United States and the only thing that will end the runaway train that is the progressive nanny-state.

Yes, it would greatly diminish the USA’s global power and cause some definite economic pain - and the Government would, like governments in Argentina, Bolivia or Greece would do its best to strip-mine the population of its wealth to keep itself alive.

Without forced change, we will continue to go down the road to the Roman Empire - wealth and power for the government elites, and bread, circuses, war, inflation and feudalism for the plebs


11 posted on 12/30/2015 11:29:30 AM PST by PGR88
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To: MtnClimber

Remember who the Dorkbama the Muslim regime hires...those with even less ability than he has.

I know, that is a hard task to fill, but they have managed it in the IRS, the Just Us Collection of cretins, the VA, etc.


12 posted on 12/30/2015 11:36:37 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Responsibility2nd

But there is a symbiotic relationship between the two.
Working one’s way up in the private sector is being disincentivized
by the welfare programs that we’re taxed against our will to support.
And if those programs pay better than a productive job, why wouldn’t someone take the free money?

Same goes for the government jobs—if given a choice between a productive, useful job that pays less, or a higher paying position with the power to raise one’s own pay and vote oneself a cushy pension—wile the taxpayer can’t do a dang thing about it, more people are opting out of the private sector.
These bureaucrats and lawmakers (government workers) are the same poverty pimps whose jobs DEPEND on the welfare state, and the votes of its beneficiaries.

Did you not read, or understand, the story?
You seem to be supporting big government.
Twenty in the wagon, two people pulling—this is how economies collapse.

We are long overdue for a tax revolt.


13 posted on 12/30/2015 11:37:08 AM PST by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: Responsibility2nd

But there is a symbiotic relationship between the two.
Working one’s way up in the private sector is being disincentivized
by the welfare programs that we’re taxed against our will to support.
And if those programs pay better than a productive job, why wouldn’t someone take the free money?

Same goes for the government jobs—if given a choice between a productive, useful job that pays less, or a higher paying position with the power to raise one’s own pay and vote oneself a cushy pension—wile the taxpayer can’t do a dang thing about it, more people are opting out of the private sector.
These bureaucrats and lawmakers (government workers) are the same poverty pimps whose jobs DEPEND on the welfare state, and the votes of its beneficiaries.

Did you not read, or understand, the story?
You seem to be supporting big government.
Twenty in the wagon, two people pulling—this is how economies collapse.

We are long overdue for a tax revolt.


14 posted on 12/30/2015 11:37:37 AM PST by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: mumblypeg

Sorry about double post. Hiccup!


15 posted on 12/30/2015 11:39:37 AM PST by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: MtnClimber

Gov. Brown just signed a law emulating the federal earned income tax credit for CA tax payers.


16 posted on 12/30/2015 12:18:50 PM PST by Signalman
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To: kaehurowing

Does it really max out at three? Then why do they all have 10-12 kids? I suspect the benefits keep on growing, otherwise they would stop.


17 posted on 12/30/2015 12:23:28 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: MtnClimber

But the makers do not need the takers.

Heaven help them when the makers realize that.

“We have no demands to present to you, no terms to bargain about, no compromise to reach. You have nothing to offer us. We do not need you.”

John Galt


18 posted on 12/30/2015 12:30:51 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Cowboy Bob

Not sure. I had a conversation a couple months ago with someone whose good for nothing drug addicted niece did this, and supposedly 3 is the magic number. So she got knocked up by 3 different men to get the max benefits.


19 posted on 12/30/2015 12:32:13 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: MtnClimber
Behold the "middle class," the money and main political influence of today. They dominate both political parties and present media celebrities as socialist candidates for the presidency.

OpenSecrets.org
American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees [State/County/Municipal Employees]
[Total Contributions:] $94,708,977
[To Dems & liberals:] $93,739,954
[To Repubs & Conservs:] $671,755
[Pct to Dems & liberals:] 99%
[Pct to Repubs & Conservs:] 1%


Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

[Plus pensioners, businesses linked with government and all.]


20 posted on 12/30/2015 12:34:31 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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