BATF F-Troop probably has a threatcon for cast guns:
Posted on 12/09/2015 7:32:32 AM PST by Elderberry
The day of the Waco Twin Peaks biker clash, Cossacks Motorcycle Club member Cody Ledbetter arrived at the restaurant unarmed in a rental car.
His right arm was in a sling from a recent accident. And by a few minutes after noon, he was scrambling for his life and saw his father, a Cossacks leader, get shot in the back of the head.
Nothing Ledbetter did was criminal, contends lawyer Paul Looney, of Houston who is asking a state district judge to quash the indictment against Ledbetter on the grounds it does not specify how he allegedly engaged in
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...
First they came for the bikers then the freepers whats next the Shriners
White guy? that explains it.
Unarmed man with an arm in a sling? Well, which one was it? Was he unarmed? Or was his arm in a sling?
Oh no, the police arrested a bunch of criminal gang members... what tyranny!!! /sarc
From your link:
“The Cossacks Motorcycle Club had been at odds with the Bandidos Motorcycle Club, which was created decades ago in the Houston region and is seen as on par with the Hells Angels.”
BATF F-Troop probably has a threatcon for cast guns:
From the same link :
” even then the Cossacks were described as motorcycle club and not a gang.”
LOL! The call the Bandidos a ‘club’ also! and .....
““The worst thing to happen to the Cossacks is that the Bandidos decided to target them for wearing a patch,†he said. “They were being illegally intimidated and targeted for a first amendment expression on their back that wasn’t trade-marked, wasn’t patented or belonged to anybody,†he continued. “They were a crime victim of the Bandidos “
I have a problem with a US citizen being indited for simply being present at the scene of a crime. Questioning? Sure. But arrested? There was a massive shoot-out and he didn’t have a weapon.
How does this make sense?
It’s the same with the middle-aged couple who’d gone there for a meal. They didn’t belong to any of the gangs. Yet they were held for weeks without bail.
People who’s guns were not fired were arrested and held without bail - and then with an unreasonable bail.
And the police are being damned sneaky about the evidence.
It’s an organized crime case, so objections about “they were unarmed”, etc are pointless. I don’t need to be armed to be acting in support of a criminal organization.
“It’s the same with the middle-aged couple who’d gone there for a meal. They didn’t belong to any of the gangs. Yet they were held for weeks without bail.”
What are you talking about? Nobody was held without bail, at least nobody I’ve heard about and I’ve been following the case pretty closely.
“People who’s guns were not fired were arrested and held without bail - and then with an unreasonable bail.”
Just because you think it’s unreasonable does not mean that it is. People get million dollar bail amounts set all the time, for various reasons, so just because a high bail amount is set doesn’t mean the amount is unreasonable.
So if you’re at a restaurant with your wife and there happens to be a shootout, you’ll be fine with the two of you being arrested and having to post a million dollar bail for your release?
That’s nice.
I’m not okay with this.
I’m also not okay with ‘guilt by association’. I really believed that one had to actually commit a freaking crime to be charged with something and having the wrong friends should not be enough to throw someone in the clink.
That’s one step from ‘thought crime’ or ‘pre-crime’.
“So if you’re at a restaurant with your wife and there happens to be a shootout, you’ll be fine with the two of you being arrested and having to post a million dollar bail for your release?”
That’s not the situation here. These people were criminal gang members, from two different groups at war with each other, who gathered there from all over the state and got in a shootout. That doesn’t happen accidentally.
“I’m also not okay with ‘guilt by association’. I really believed that one had to actually commit a freaking crime to be charged with something and having the wrong friends should not be enough to throw someone in the clink.”
Being a member of a criminal organization, and being caught at the scene of a crime that organization engaged in that resulted in multiple homicides is not “having the wrong friends”.
Not sure who were talking about and who they were with, but the Cossacks had not been designated as Criminal.
May 17th I think was the date, and you are still doing the ole cut and paste, little more noticeable now with all the wigglys in it. Hope the election went well for you and the Department.
Also, it's irrelevant, because they are demonstrably a criminal organization.
Well that answer went into methamphetamine fantasy land really quick.
If it is demonstrable in any way, shape, or form where are the video and ballistics reports which the prosecution and law enforcement are required by law to have already released to the defence.
“If it is demonstrable in any way, shape, or form where are the video and ballistics reports which the prosecution and law enforcement are required by law to have already released to the defence.”
I said the Cossacks are demonstrably a criminal organization. You don’t need videos or ballistics reports to demonstrate that, so what are you rambling about?
Also, they are NOT required by law to have released those to the defense already, not until the discovery phase is over, and we haven’t reached that point yet.
“where are the video and ballistics reports which the prosecution and law enforcement are required by law to have already released to the defence.”
Please cite any violations of the law and I will forward them to the defenSe attorneys.
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