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Air Defense: Laser Iron Beam For Israel
Strategy Page ^ | November 4, 2015

Posted on 11/08/2015 6:56:31 AM PST by fella

Israel is offering for sale a laser weapon that can shoot down artillery and mortar shells as well as rockets and small UAVs. Called Iron Beam it has a range of 2,000 meters and is expected to enter service in Israel by the end of 2015. There is a lot of action on Israeli borders for a system like Iron Beam and it will soon become evident if Iron Beam is the first effective laser air defense weapon or not.

Each Iron Beam firing unit consists of a radar and control system and two lasers. These three elements can be stationary or mounted (and used) in trucks. This is the first C-RAM (counter-rockets, artillery and mortars) system using lasers to be offered for sale. There have been several attempts to develop systems like this since the 1990s but this one is the first to actually hit the market.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: egypt; eritrea; fatah; gaza; hamas; hizbollah; iran; ironbeam; israel; jordan; lebanon; sinai; uav; waronterror; yemen
Their R&D seems to be much better than our R&D.

Not as much corruption I guess.

1 posted on 11/08/2015 6:56:31 AM PST by fella
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To: fella

“Their R&D seems to be much better than our R&D.

They are actually at war and we are not. War stimulates technological development. As near as I can determine, our technological progress has stalled under Obama. Like Hitler, he has decided to take the cheap route and rely on the old proven technology; the drones we have and guided bombs. (Germany had working jet prototypes but the propeller planes did just fine in Poland and they were cheap.)

Obama has no need to develop defensive equipment as it would cost money, be embarrassing if it failed, and it would only save US military lives, which is not his priority.


2 posted on 11/08/2015 7:02:37 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: fella

Again, I want one. Wont even ask for two, even if you try and make me!


3 posted on 11/08/2015 7:14:53 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: fella

>>> Their R&D seems to be much better than our R&D.
Not as much corruption I guess. <<<

No H1b folks to sabotage the project and steal the tech?

That’s what’s going on here in the USA, but nobody’s noticed it yet.


4 posted on 11/08/2015 7:16:00 AM PST by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

While not the time for it, I can see Israel using it, and seconds after a successful defense of an inbound sending over one of their own. Maybe do it during an Iranian missile test.

Let Iran know that anything that flies towards Israel will be shot down and countered. Make that standard operating procedure.


5 posted on 11/08/2015 7:20:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberalism is only successful if you allow it to be. To win, you have to fight back.)
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To: fella
Quite a game changer if Israel has a cheap, effective defense against the barrage of mortar rounds and cheap homemade rockets.

Stopping these attacks at the source, by taking out the launchers, is impractical sometimes. The Palis like to launch from innocent civilian areas then claim Israel's return fire was an "unprovoked attack on innocent victms".

6 posted on 11/08/2015 7:24:53 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

If the feds won’t buy this stuff to protect our cities (say, from cruise missiles launched offshore), then maybe the state National Guards ought to authorize their purchase.

(If Washington won’t do it, maybe self-reliance will again become necessary.)


7 posted on 11/08/2015 7:25:57 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: fella

Next will be a UAV that takes out Laser Iron Beams.


8 posted on 11/08/2015 7:34:15 AM PST by bigbob
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To: CondorFlight

Two thousand meters range is not enough to protect a city. It is barely enough to protect a point target. We need to our protecting across the sea on the other guy’s soil.


9 posted on 11/08/2015 7:42:57 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: fella

My question is about the firing rate - this takes a LOT of power, and if it can only fire 2 or 3 times a minute then it isn’t going to be that effective. Any enemy could overwhelm the system with a dozen mortars or arty pieces. Of course, knocking out ANYTHING is a net positive, but the question is really whether it is cost-effective. The Iron Dome missiles cost $100,000 per shot ($50K per missile, and they launch 2 at each target to be as sure as possible of hitting it), whereas the target missiles cost a lot less. I hope that this system has a better ratio (i.e. that not too many lasers are needed to effectively cover a given area), and that they can later improve the range in a Mk. 2 version.


10 posted on 11/08/2015 8:40:02 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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"Before I Leave Office,
The World Will Enact
A Laser Weapon Ban
That Impacts
Everyone Equally.
Oh, and Death to America!"


11 posted on 11/08/2015 8:59:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Gen.Blather
It appears that the war against America has never ended, but rather the type, nature and level of war has changed with time's seasons.

Consider:

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.
If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."
~ Joseph Stalin
In times of peace, obama, like with Wilson, FDR, Carter and the rest of the demonrat presidents before him, wage a war against America's healthy body fighting on the fronts Stalin points to.

As long as the illusion of physical world peace is maintained, they can and will also fight on the front of military maintenance, repair and R&D.

Thus, times of peace is when their war is most effective and why physical wars must be avoided, even or especially a just war, such as with FDR's reluctance to enter WWII and Wilson's reluctance to enter WWI before him.

If we were also fighting in a physical war for survival, as was the case in WWII, the F-35 would be heralded as the tech marvel it likely is and the F-22 would never have been cancelled.

With no physical war to deal with, the PTBs are free to continue their war against US in the mental/emotional/psychological realms as outlined above by Stalin, while also decimating the military.

On a spiritual note, if America enjoyed any divine protection in the past, why would it continue after 1973 when we legalized abortion?

Stalin knew the answer to that and so do the GuvCo demonrats and GOPe.

12 posted on 11/08/2015 9:31:49 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: fella

Nice technology step forward. When any ground-breaking war technology is first introduced, it is not the ultimate weapon. It is in the field where experience can be gained, improvements identified and over time, continuous improvements make it into a valuable weapon.


13 posted on 11/08/2015 9:36:11 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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