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To: conservativejoy

If this doesn’t raise any alarms for you about Carson, I don’t know what will.


11 posted on 10/26/2015 7:09:29 AM PDT by jimbo807
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To: jimbo807
Love the way “Conservatives” are leaping to the defense of tax payer paid for political indoctrination as “Free Speech”

NO, your school class room is not suppose to be a platform for you to spread your political ideology. College Professors, and the like, are actually suppose to be held to intellectual standards, not just written a blank check by the State.

Another example of how the GOP is willing co-conspirators of the Socialist state.

Instead of pathetically flailing around daily for some reason to attack the other candidates, try making a case FOR your candidate for a change.

16 posted on 10/26/2015 7:13:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: jimbo807

On the issue of being Constitutionally-minded, I liked Carson over Trump.

Carson is clearly not ready for prime time, and perhaps never will be, vis-a-vis as POTUS.

It’s Cruz or Trump. In that order, for the primaries.


17 posted on 10/26/2015 7:13:25 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is libertye)
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To: jimbo807

Free Speech does not mean the Goverment is required to pay you to proagandize.

Really this stupid? Think you are just entailed to unlimited amounts of Federal Dollars no matter how badly you misuse that money?


24 posted on 10/26/2015 7:18:28 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: jimbo807

[If this doesn’t raise any alarms for you about Carson, I don’t know what will.]

CARSON has made conflicting statements regarding abortion issues as well as disturbing views on medical treatment for the elderly. He needs to clarify his positions and why the change. Could it be his original sentiments are affecting his candidacy?

BEN CARSON - ON MEDICAL CARE FOR THE ELDERLY
(He’s for a panel to decide which seniors deserve life saving treatment/end of life care, and which ones don’t)

[[Our mind-set is to automatically pull out all medical stops—even if that means literally torturing loved ones during their last few months of life. What if rather than always putting terminally ill patients in intensive care units—where we poke, prod, test, and operate ad nauseum—we allowed most people the dignity of dying in relative peace and comfort, at home, surrounded by loved ones, with hospice care or some other medical attendant if necessary? Agreement on who should be treated and who should not be treated would require an extensive national discussion that could hopefully result in some helpful basic guidelines. Obviously any such guidelines should allow for flexibility and choice. And decisions should be based not merely on age but on the viability of the patient. (From his 1999 book, The Big Picture.)]]

BEN CARSON - ON SOCIAL ISSUES
Carson has expressed support for same-sex civil unions, and following the Supreme Court’s ruling legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states, he conceded the fight was over by declaring the ruling the “law of the land.” (Newsmax)

Despite maintaining a strong pro-life record, in a 1992 interview, Dr. Carson said that while he does not perform abortions, he personally referred women seeking abortions to other doctors. In the same interview, he said that he “would never advocate it’s illegal for a person to get an abortion.” (Baltimore Sun)

Dr. Carson co-authored a medical research paper in 1992 where he outlined his support for the use of aborted baby organs for research purposes. Carson defended his past statements, saying, “To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?”

Numerous conservatives have expressed that by providing the demand that abortion providers will supply the market and that participating in this practice is being complicit. (Life Site News)

As revelations came to light about Dr. Carson referring the mothers of unborn children with potential birth defects to abortionists, his campaign defended the practice. A campaign spokesman said, “he [Carson] believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information.” Pressed on whether Carson stands by his decision to do so, the same spokesman said yes. The statement is particularly troubling given that pro-abortion proponents use similar language regarding a decision between the patient and their doctor, but not mentioning the life of the child. (Politico)

Since news surfaced of a 1992 research paper co-authored by Dr. Carson that included the use of fetal tissue, Caron’s stance on abortion has come under immense scrutiny and his defense of his previous medical decisions has been troubling to many in the pro-life movement. When asked if Carson stands by his past decision to refer patients to abortion doctors, Carson’s Communications Director said “He believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information.”Additionally, the spokesman went on to say that Carson believes that you can’t stop abortion by making it illegal. The spokesman told Politico, “he [Carson] has always believed that the battle over abortion had to be waged in the hearts and minds of Americans, that you cannot legislate morality. But he also believes we’re winning the debate.” (Politico)

In the 1990s, Carson was a board member of the Baltimore Charitable Foundation which gave $200,000 in grants to Planned Parenthood. When confronted with this fact, and asked if Carson knew about the grants a spokesman said, “it doesn’t really matter.” (Politico)

When asked if he would support abortion in the case of incest or rape, Dr. Carson said, “I would hope that they would very quickly avail themselves of the emergency room, and in the emergency room, they have the ability to administer RU-486 and other possibilities before you have a developing fetus.” RU-486 is an abortifacient that kills a fertilized egg by artificially denying it the ability to attach to the uterine wall. Using Dr. Carson’s own standard of life beginning at conception, this would then constitute murder. (Politico)

During the campaign Dr. Carson has struggled to define when he believes life begins. He told ABC News that life begins “when the heart starts beating” but later clarified that he meant conception. (Politico)

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/ben-carson#article-11


45 posted on 10/26/2015 7:40:42 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: jimbo807

I was thinking the same thing. How can anyone support him?


66 posted on 10/26/2015 8:13:11 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: jimbo807; DoodleDawg

Got it. More important to you to find some excuse to attack the other candidates then to bother to THINK about what you are saying.


67 posted on 10/26/2015 8:13:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: jimbo807

Got it. In YOUR world the Government just writes blank checks, it doesn’t attach any standards to how that money is used.

Really this stupid?


71 posted on 10/26/2015 8:17:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: jimbo807

You really are this supid!

Here is how it works on a modern University. NO “conservative” dares to speak anything about his/her politics because there are hundred of Leftists just waiting to rush to the University’s Standards board and complain about “political indoctrination”. However, a conservative student who goes to one of those boards and complains is given the back of the hand by the Leftist administration, and frequently subjected to retribution by the Professors.

Carson is saying since we write the checks, there should be some balancing mechanism that prevents the Leftists from having a free ride on our money

Of course, stupid pseudo-conservatives, immediately go into hysterics because how dare anyone actually be advocating fighting back against the Leftist propaganda machine!


74 posted on 10/26/2015 8:25:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: jimbo807; DoodleDawg

Just admit it. You both looked at the headline an thought “ah aha, here is our reason to attack Carson today.

Neither of you spent even a second bothering to think beyond that point.


80 posted on 10/26/2015 8:32:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: jimbo807

You really think the Government should just keep pouring money into these schools without once checking how they use it!

You are the worst sort of Vichy Conservative. The willing stooge of the Leftist machine who buys their propaganda about “Intellectual Freedom” lock, stock and barrel.

There is no intellectual freedom on modern universities campus. you either tow the Leftist line or get intimated and harassed,

Dr Carson suggest we need to do something about that you cannot help but race feverishly to side with the Leftist machine just because Carson is “not your choice”

Just truly pathetic.

The 1st Amendment does not gaurentee your right to a Government check.


83 posted on 10/26/2015 8:37:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: jimbo807

Just admit it.

You know nothing at all about this Universities work. You simple were desperate for some reason to attack Carson and did not bother to learn anything at all about this topic.

Because of that was your agenda, you staked out the idiotic position that Government funding for ideological propagandizing at Universities is a “1st Amendment” right.


87 posted on 10/26/2015 8:47:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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