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Car Plunges Off Santa Cruz Municipal Wharf
NBC Bay Area ^ | 10/17

Posted on 10/20/2015 3:48:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A car with two people inside plunged off the Santa Cruz Municipal Wharf late Saturday, officials said.

Both people were rescued by emergency crews and were transported to a hospital. The condition of the two were not immediately known.

The incident was reported at 8:20 p.m. near the Santa Cruz Lifeguard Headquarters.

Officials said the driver went over an 8-inch parking block and tore through a 4-foot rail before falling about 20 feet into the ocean.

Witness Christina Patrick said she saw the car driving all over the pier before it went off.

Nearby lifeguards swam to the vehicle, described by witnesses as a white sedan, to rescue the two people in the car.


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1 posted on 10/20/2015 3:48:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: martin_fierro

Ping


2 posted on 10/20/2015 3:49:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Murder/suicide?


3 posted on 10/20/2015 3:53:37 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: nickcarraway
"Ruthless People"??


4 posted on 10/20/2015 4:01:22 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: nickcarraway

So. Was it the car or the driver? If he had shot someone would it have been the gun or the shooter?


5 posted on 10/20/2015 4:13:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: SkyDancer
I never saw Christine.
6 posted on 10/20/2015 4:15:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It is the one and only movie by Steve King that I enjoyed. I read the book and it didn’t compare to the movie. It was a great psychological film. I had to watch it when home schooled and write an essay on it.


7 posted on 10/20/2015 4:17:37 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: nickcarraway
OHLS: There's a big Packard belonging to one of them is washing around in the surf off Lido pier.

MARLOWE: Mmm.

OHLS: Oh I almost forgot, there's a guy in it.

- The Big Sleep


8 posted on 10/20/2015 4:21:50 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Great movie.


9 posted on 10/20/2015 4:22:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Great movie.

Yep, one of my favorites.

I'll have you know I've waited years for a car to go of a pier so I could post that.

10 posted on 10/20/2015 4:25:38 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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I think that it was after this scene Bogart went to Howard Hawks and asked him who committed that murder. Hawks didn't know, so he called the three writers, Leigh Brackett, William Faulkner, and Jules Furthman and asked them who committed the murder. They discussed it and found they didn't know. So they called the writer of the original book, Raymond Chandler, to ask him. I guess no one was ever sure who did it.

I love it. It's not like movies where you know everything that's going to happen. If you don't pay attention for a few minutes, you are lost.

11 posted on 10/20/2015 4:31:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Yep. Then they cut the movie to confuse it even further. There’s a scene in the dead guy’s apartment where there body is gone. But in another version, Bogart discovers the body laid out on the bed. Turns out there was a Gay lover in the mix, the one who shoots the wrong guy later.

Crazy movie.


12 posted on 10/20/2015 4:40:39 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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And the book store was lending out pornography.

I never saw her in another movie, but that Martha Vickers was something else.

13 posted on 10/20/2015 4:47:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The book store had porn?! Where?

The book store babe was Dorothy Malone, who totally stole the scene. I think Martha Vickers was Bacall’s drug-addled slut sister in the movie.


14 posted on 10/20/2015 6:38:05 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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So they called the writer of the original book, Raymond Chandler, to ask him.

Howard Hawks wired Chandler to ask the question. Chandler later wrote in a letter to his English publisher that he was "hooted at" for not being able to provide a good answer.

In "The Big Sleep," Owen Taylor's death was called a suicide in newspaper accounts. Though Marlowe seems to disbelieve those accounts, no other explanation for Taylor's death is ever provided.

Actually, the suicide explanation works very well. Taylor knew he would be caught and prosecuted for killing Geiger, and he should have figured out what a complete idiot he had been to fall in love with Carmen. Also, driving off a pier is much more consistent with suicide than with murder.

Chandler could have confirmed the suicide in a couple of sentences, but I guess he just forgot.

15 posted on 10/20/2015 11:44:32 PM PDT by TChad
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I thought Owen Taylor was sapped and his foot was tied to the accelerator, suggesting suicide?

Anyway, I think it's more likely that Brody killed Taylor.

Carmen said Brody killed Geiger. I don't think she would protect Taylor, but she might want to "get" Brody, but that assumes her brain was working well enough to lie.

16 posted on 10/21/2015 12:18:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Talisker

No, he originally goes to the book shop that is fronted by a woman named Agnes. He suspected it was a front, so he had done research at the library and stumped Agnes. Then he goes across the street to Dorothy Malone, to check and see if she would fall for the same trick. And yes, she did steal the scene. Oh, and how about the lady taxi driver?


17 posted on 10/21/2015 12:20:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Martha Vickers was Bacall’s drug-addled slut sister in the movie.

Yes, she wasn't in much of the movie, but how about the scene at the beginning when she tries to sit in Marlowe's lap, while he's standing up?

18 posted on 10/21/2015 12:21:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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LOL, yeah, you know the movie. And I forgot about Agnes and the “Argentine-Egyptian ceramics.”

And yeah, the taxi driver - every time I see the movie I do a double-take. Can you imagine 40’s movie audience response?


19 posted on 10/21/2015 10:51:53 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Thelma and Louise?

-PJ

20 posted on 10/21/2015 10:55:30 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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