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Navy retires USS Simpson, last modern ship to sink an enemy vessel
Florida Times Union ^ | Sep 29, 2015 | Andrew Pantazi

Posted on 09/29/2015 1:12:07 PM PDT by mrsmith

The United States Navy decommissioned its last Perry-class frigate, reducing the Navy's number of ships that have sunk an enemy vessel to just one... After 30 years of service — including an April 1988 battle when it fired missiles at and sunk an Iranian oil platform and an Iranian Navy vessel — the ship's service came to an end Tuesday with a ceremony at Mayport Naval Station.

Now the only Navy ship that has sunk an enemy is the USS Constitution, which did so during the War of 1812...

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
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I'm nonplussed by this. I guess a navy's job just ain't what it used to be but this is just weird.
1 posted on 09/29/2015 1:12:07 PM PDT by mrsmith
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Meals on Wheels and muzzie outreach......


2 posted on 09/29/2015 1:17:14 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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>>I’m nonplussed by this. I guess a navy’s job just ain’t what it used to be but this is just weird.

The Navy only has two real jobs: strategic deterrence (SSBNs) and projection of air power (CVNs, the various gator carriers, SSGNs, and SSNs). All the “old Navy” stuff is obsolete except in support of those two roles.

But that statement must be said with the warning: it could all change quickly.


3 posted on 09/29/2015 1:19:28 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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"The end of the Navy's frigates marks a new era of naval warfare where ships are less likely to go to battle in the open sea."

The last I heard, the Chinese were building up their navy as fast as the possibly could.

4 posted on 09/29/2015 1:20:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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ValJar just cleaning house while she can.

This ship did harm to her countrymen.


5 posted on 09/29/2015 1:23:41 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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I don’t know if this is the right thing to do or not.

But I do know I don’t trust any decision make by the Rainbow WH, and LGBT friendly Pentagon.


6 posted on 09/29/2015 1:24:48 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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The US Military, including the Navy, has not been in a shooting war with a major power since 1945.

We may get into a war with China sometime in our lifetimes.

7 posted on 09/29/2015 1:27:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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They gave up the battleships a long time ago, in favor of carriers.


8 posted on 09/29/2015 1:29:26 PM PDT by lacrew
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yes. And their Navy will be capable of going to battle in the open sea...
9 posted on 09/29/2015 1:30:23 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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>>We may get into a war with China sometime in our lifetimes.

That’s why I said that it could change quickly. We will not be prepared, no matter how much warning we get. It takes us 20 years to design and build a ship and we worry more about the LGBT berthing arrangements than survivability in battle.


10 posted on 09/29/2015 1:30:45 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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We shouldn’t be decommissioning ANYTHING until we get an American president back in office who will rebuild our military. That is, IF we’re still a country.


11 posted on 09/29/2015 1:30:53 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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Build the Montana class BBs to start.

Do you know that when the USS Missouri was laid down at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, they made the steel on site?


12 posted on 09/29/2015 1:31:12 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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Build the Montana class BBs to start.

Do you know that when the USS Missouri was laid down at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, they made the steel on site?


13 posted on 09/29/2015 1:31:12 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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I can see that but it’s strange to this Navy Brat.
I guess there’s few if any sailors that have sunk an enemy vessel left too.
But if things change quickly there’s an awful lot of tradition that will be with the men and officers who’ll have to handle it. An awesome institution the US Navy.


14 posted on 09/29/2015 1:31:35 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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BB-67 Montana, BB-68 Ohio, BB-69 Maine, BB-70 New Hampshire and BB-71 Louisiana.


15 posted on 09/29/2015 1:42:04 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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Jessica is not pleased.

5.56mm


16 posted on 09/29/2015 1:45:14 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Bryanw92
The Navy only has two real jobs: strategic deterrence (SSBNs) and projection of air power (CVNs, the various gator carriers, SSGNs, and SSNs). All the “old Navy” stuff is obsolete except in support of those two roles.

I guess I would include the Fast Attack Subs that perform intelligence gathering ops or carry Seals in to harms way and latter recovers them

17 posted on 09/29/2015 1:59:30 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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>>I guess I would include the Fast Attack Subs that perform intelligence gathering ops or carry Seals in to harms way and latter recovers them

Yeah. I meant that it only has two “real NAVY type” jobs. Working with Special Ops and delivering the Marines is a side business.


18 posted on 09/29/2015 2:02:14 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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19 posted on 09/29/2015 2:06:56 PM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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A Montana, even with modernized weapons and electronics is nothing more than a giant target. That’s before you take into account that it’s be largely defenseless against some of the new shipkiller missiles.

There are modern BB designs that incorporate stealth and other things the Montana could never hope to integrate properly. Some of them have a design speed (on paper) of over 45 knots and are sufficiently able to defend themselves that they don’t need to tie up an escort flotilla. Nuclear powered railgun batteries anyone?


20 posted on 09/29/2015 2:33:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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