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Official: North America is COMPLETELY OUT of new IPv4 addresses
The Register ^ | 24 September 2015 | Chris Williams

Posted on 09/24/2015 1:35:40 PM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: Flick Lives
"Who used up all the IP4 addresses?!"

They're being given out for free with every new EBT account.

21 posted on 09/24/2015 2:19:57 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SamAdams76
our instructor told us that eventually the 4 billion plus IP addresses would run out.

My instructor told me everything on the Internet is free, and if it's not free, ask again.

22 posted on 09/24/2015 2:20:04 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Covenantor

Wifi on a fridge is a joke. I don’t want my fridge on the net.

“Interwebz”, really?


23 posted on 09/24/2015 2:31:55 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: ShadowAce

It’s 32768 IPv4’s worth.


24 posted on 09/24/2015 2:33:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It's a lot more than that.

4,000,000,000 x 32768 = 1.31x1014

ipv6 is 3.4x1036

25 posted on 09/24/2015 2:40:31 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: AFreeBird

I don’t want my fridge on the net.

Yes, but the feds do. So they can track your power usage, detect food usage by algorithm, and shut you off when they declare you are a burden to the system.


26 posted on 09/24/2015 2:51:37 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: ShadowAce

27 posted on 09/24/2015 2:55:06 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Donate monthly and end FReepathons.)
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To: ShadowAce; dfwgator

If you look at the way they are allocating space, I would not be surprised at all if we run out of IPv6 in my lifetime.


28 posted on 09/24/2015 2:55:10 PM PDT by zeugma (Zaphod Beeblebrox for president! Or Cruz if Zaphod is unavailable.)
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To: zeugma

“if you build it, they will come.”


29 posted on 09/24/2015 2:56:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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30 posted on 09/24/2015 2:56:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ShadowAce

True, there are combinations in V4 that can’t be used.


31 posted on 09/24/2015 3:01:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Well, the Feds can go fsck themselves.


32 posted on 09/24/2015 3:09:58 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: ShadowAce

So this says that - in stock market terms - the primary offering has been allotted. It seems to me nothing prevents person A who owns a /24 for example selling that subnet to person B at whatever price person B chooses to pay for it.

They say “They ain’t making any more real estate”. But real estate is bought and sold every day.

Potentially same thing here.


33 posted on 09/24/2015 3:33:07 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Then of course there is —— NAT. So in practical terms nothing really changes here.


34 posted on 09/24/2015 3:34:22 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ShadowAce

“When we designed the Internet 40 years ago, we did some calculations and estimated that 4.3 billion terminations ought to be enough for an experiment. Well, the experiment escaped the lab,” said Vint Cerf, the ARIN chairman who is often dubbed the father of the internet.

Hmmmm,

I thought Al Gore invented the internet....


35 posted on 09/24/2015 4:24:41 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: taxcontrol
Not really that big of a deal.
Simply offer non carrier companies a couple of blocks of v6 address space in exchange for a class A space.

Excellent point. I was also thinking about those older companies holding big blocks of addresses, many of which they won't use. As you say, IBM holds all of the 9 network (9.0.0.0). Just like large landowners can subdivide their property and sell off portions, these large subnet holders can subdivide their addresses. Most people think of 255.255.255.0 masks to derive their subnet, rather than 255.0.0.0 for these old companies. A quarter century ago I set up routers and thought there were plenty of addresses; back then there were.

36 posted on 09/24/2015 7:42:02 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: ShadowAce

We’re already out. I overestimated.


37 posted on 09/25/2015 2:56:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: dfwgator
PFFFFT! The IPv6 address space has 340 undecillion (3.4 x 10^34) addresses. I'm not saying it won't exhaust eventually, but that's 48.6 octillion addresses for every living human being (assuming a population of 7 billion).


38 posted on 09/25/2015 4:44:02 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Not everything can be natted, though. If you think about it, most home users are behind at least 2 NATs (ISP DHCP and home router/switch DHCP). For those of us running services from our home devices, having a public IP address is necessary.

I’ve already got my own public IPv6 address, but not everything routes to it properly. Squat on an address range when you can, because they’ll eventually be used up.


39 posted on 09/25/2015 4:47:00 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I mean - OK IPV4 exhaustion is a real thing. I’m just saying that there are 2 mitigations.

1. NAT - without which we would have run out eons ago.
2. Reselling address blocks - just like any other commodity - just because something has been sold once doesn’t preclude it from being sold again - on the “secondary market”.


40 posted on 09/27/2015 11:06:45 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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