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Did I hear Rush Right? Don't let Trump's views bother us 'Cause RNC said Bush, McCain, Romney OK
September 3, 2015 | Vanity

Posted on 09/03/2015 12:43:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Norm Lenhart
“For me, that indicates that most conservatives are still holding out hope that their favorite conservative candidate (Cruz, in most cases) will be the nominee, but that they’re grounded enough in reality to admit that it will probably be Trump.“

Isn’t that the same...THE VERY SAME...’logic’ that has resulted in a RINO dominated GOP? That elected Mitch and Jonbon? Yes it is.

Mitch McConnell and John Boehner were both re-elected while in strong leadership positions. They held the home court advantage as powerful incumbents. People like that are hard to unseat.

Here in Texas, we elected Ted Cruz to the Senate over a sitting Lt. Governor who had the whole establishment party machine backing him. Then again, they were both running for an open seat. There's a difference between that sort of race, and the ones that Boehner and McConnell won.

I'm with you where it comes to explaining the mindset of the voters in Kentucky and Ohio. I mean, WTF, over. I can guarantee you, if I lived in either of those states, I would have voted for the conservative challenger, even if it looked like he might not make it. Congressional races can sometimes come down to just a few thousand votes, so it's well worth it to swim against the tide.

Your guy just might win, if you do.

Now, national elections can be close, too. Look at Bush vs Gore in 2000. If four million Republican voters had stayed home, like they did in 2012, Gore would have won.

Fast forward to the present and we're analyzing the current primary race - not the general. For several reasons, our number one pick isn't drawing anywhere near the level of support that the flamboyant outsider is. A lot of us think it's because:

1. He's only been on the national stage for three years.
2. He's seen as a hardline right-winger by many moderates and left-of-center voters.
3. He's committed three or four unforced errors since entering the race, which has greatly softened his support on the right.
4. He's being weighed against the perceived strengths of the front-runner, and is coming up short in voters' eyes.
5. He's fighting for oxygen like every other candidate.
6. He's consistently in the middle of the pack in polling.

For better or worse, this is all simply the way it is. Tens of millions of minds are rolling this over and are spitting out the results of their individual analyses in poll after poll. Over the last two months, we've begun to see a clear pattern, and unless something drastic happens, the numbers are going to be pretty similar til the voting starts (or folks start dropping out).

Again, we need to remember that we're talking about a primary race - not a general election. We're all still examining the candidates and judging them by their performances on the campaign trail, as well as their policy statements and records.

I know how you feel about Cruz. I do too. I'd like to see him as our president, but I've looked hard at this, and have concluded that it's not his time. Not yet. Perhaps after serving another four to eight years in Washington. Quite honestly, he needs to build a rep that's deep and wide enough to clinch the nomination. He's got to build a power base. I think he'll do that in another four to eight years.

I want to be wrong. I want Trump to put us on the right path to fixing this mess. I also want a pony.

Heh. At least you haven't lost your sense of humor :-)

241 posted on 09/07/2015 11:15:32 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

It’s either laugh of cry. And you know what a positive guy I am. A veritible human ray of sunshine. Glass half full! (Filled with strychnine but half full...)

;)


242 posted on 09/07/2015 12:19:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: CatherineofAragon

True. Got some Koolaid handy? I need to clear my head of conservative thoughts.

Purity and principle are of the devil

/s


243 posted on 09/07/2015 12:21:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Why, someone just informed me of that very thing...in so many words, LOL.


244 posted on 09/07/2015 12:27:23 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: CatherineofAragon

Moderates on parade. Just don’t dare question the conservatism they threw away like last weeks garbage. Because...you know... Again.


245 posted on 09/07/2015 12:30:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
It’s either laugh of cry. And you know what a positive guy I am. A veritible human ray of sunshine. Glass half full!

I went to Amazon to read reviews of Trump's book, "Time To Get Tough", where he outlines his overall policy positions. I've heard very good things about it here on FR.

You might want to take a look. There's a lot more to Trump than twitter insults and braggadocious chest thumping.

http://www.amazon.com/Time-Get-Tough-Making-America/dp/B0078XP51G

Related thread on FR with 62 replies:

TIME TO GET TOUGH: TRUMP’S BLOCKBUSTER POLICY MANIFESTO

246 posted on 09/07/2015 1:57:27 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

No need. I have heard enough of his own words and read enough about his history to be well aware of where he stands. And to know where I stand in relation. They arent similar. I’ll stick with conservative values/principles.


247 posted on 09/07/2015 2:06:11 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
No need. I have heard enough of his own words and read enough about his history to be well aware of where he stands. And to know where I stand in relation.

Come on, man. That's not the Norm I know. You aren't seriously going to stick your fingers in your ears like that, are you?

Go on and read the reviews. Check out the thread I linked in my last post. Give the man a fair hearing before shutting him out. If you still find yourself in major disagreement with him, at least it'll be an honest position.

248 posted on 09/07/2015 2:32:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Windy, when did the norm you know -ever- not do his homework thoroughly before taking a position?


249 posted on 09/07/2015 2:54:04 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Windflier; Norm Lenhart

Great post, Windflier. I would add that the MSM is deliberately not mentioning Cruz when they discuss the primary.Even Fox never mentioned his name during the post debate summary. They are afraid of Trump, but lose sleep over Cruz.


250 posted on 09/08/2015 11:03:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Norm Lenhart; CatherineofAragon

“Or tip Guam over.”

LOL....and they let this brain-dead lunatic stay in Congress.

Have we hit 28 feet yet?


251 posted on 09/08/2015 11:06:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

280 more like.


252 posted on 09/08/2015 11:41:55 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Ping me when we reach the top of the Empire State building : )


253 posted on 09/08/2015 12:13:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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