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Innocent bystander, 61, dies after NYPD accidentally shot him in ... attempt to catch a gun dealer
Daily Mail UK ^

Posted on 08/29/2015 12:30:42 PM PDT by matt04

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Full title: Innocent bystander, 61, dies after NYPD accidentally shot him in bungled attempt to catch a gun dealer
1 posted on 08/29/2015 12:30:43 PM PDT by matt04
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So, will they go after DiBlasio, like they did Rudy?


2 posted on 08/29/2015 12:32:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: matt04

Only police should have guns.


3 posted on 08/29/2015 12:34:34 PM PDT by conservative98
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In response to the sting-gone-wrong, Mount Vernon Police Commissioner Terrence Raynor said: 'Things went awry, and shots were fired.'

So of 11 rounds fired, three hit the perp and wounded him and two killed a innocent person. Maybe some more range time is in order, and some training to not just empty the mag in the general direction of the perp.

4 posted on 08/29/2015 12:35:27 PM PDT by matt04
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Three of the shots his Smothers, while at least two went astray and hit Kumi, who was standing behind him.

I'd say more like 8 went astray.

5 posted on 08/29/2015 12:40:58 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: conservative98
Only police should have guns.

I'm Ok with police having guns, it's the them having ammunition for the guns that worries me! When a trained police officer can't seem to make better decisions or have better aim than your average gangbanger.....................

6 posted on 08/29/2015 12:49:14 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: matt04

What was Innocentbystander doing in NYC?

Some of the *older* FReepers may remember him.

Thought he was a left cost FReeper?


7 posted on 08/29/2015 12:55:01 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: conservative98

“Only police should have guns...”

As a ‘98’er, we should imply that ‘/s’ is self-evident?

“Only police should have guns and only on tv or movies should they shoot while in pursuit in a street situation.”

(I lost an ID too, two actually, though one was ‘involuntary’)


8 posted on 08/29/2015 12:57:15 PM PDT by This_far (WHAT LAWS DO WE GET TO IGNORE?)
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To: matt04

Innocent bystander, my ass... he was a collaborator.


9 posted on 08/29/2015 1:04:26 PM PDT by Rodamala
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“...hitting both the suspect and Kumi, a local man who happened to be in the area.”


10 posted on 08/29/2015 1:09:31 PM PDT by kanawa
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On Saturday, NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton released a statement expressing condolences to Kumi’s family.

“I wish to express my profound sorrow and sympathy to the family of Felix Kumi, an uninvolved bystander who was struck and killed by police gunfire during an undercover gun-buy operation last night,” the statement said. “Mr. Kumi was blameless, and this tragedy has tested and tried his family. I pray that they may find comfort in their hope of resurrection and awakening, and I tender the Department’s support and service in their grief.”


11 posted on 08/29/2015 1:12:13 PM PDT by kanawa
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Cumi’s daughter, Rachel Kumi, told the Journal News her father was a bus driver for the Mount Vernon school district.

“He was kind and loving and concerned,” she said. “Very generous. If you ever needed anything, my father would never say no.”


12 posted on 08/29/2015 1:13:18 PM PDT by kanawa
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Quite the fake gun, looks real enough to make me shoot back...if somebody pointed that thing at me I’d probably have to clean my britches...

I’m not sure what to think. On the one hand, it’s a bad idea to point even a fake gun at a cop, you have to know he’s going to shoot.

On the other hand, cops need to be better marksmen than that. That’s what firing ranges are for. I’m sure it’s difficult to see every little detail in a highly tense situation like that, but when in a shooting situation in public, it seems it would be prudent to try your best to avoid “collateral damage”...

Two shots should be sufficient. If I understand it correctly most cops are trained to always take 2 shots. Don’t depend on one to take anybody down. But making sure they hit the intended target should be a primary concern, especially on city streets. Firing a dozen shots willy nilly is just a bad idea...


13 posted on 08/29/2015 1:17:06 PM PDT by Paleo Pete (I'm with the bomb squad. If you see me running, CATCH UP!)
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To: kanawa

sarc tags with me are often implied.


14 posted on 08/29/2015 1:28:59 PM PDT by Rodamala
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Well, if it was an accident, then I guess IT'S ALL GOOD.

After all, the local prosecutor would not prosecute a peasant if he or she "accidentallly" shot someone to death...

LOL!

15 posted on 08/29/2015 1:34:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: Rodamala

ok, got me.
Unfortunately experience teaches that comments of that nature are not beyond the realm of possibility here.


16 posted on 08/29/2015 1:58:45 PM PDT by kanawa
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“... while at least two went astray and hit Kumi,...”

Where are the cries for “gun control”? Seems like some pretty poor “gun control” on the part of the “designated executioner”.


17 posted on 08/29/2015 3:08:17 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (It's not an "administration", it's a crime syndicate of liars, thieves, freaks, fools & perverts.)
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To: matt04

Hey, stuff happens. Especially when cops are involved. Best choice is not to interact with cops if you can help it.


18 posted on 08/29/2015 3:09:46 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Daffynition

The shooting was in Mount Vernon, just north of the Bronx, where my father was born.


19 posted on 08/29/2015 3:32:00 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Men need a reason to shop. Women need a place.)
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To: This_far
As a ‘98’er, we should imply that ‘/s’ is self-evident?

Yes, /s.

I was first here too in 1998 or 1999.

20 posted on 08/29/2015 10:31:08 PM PDT by conservative98
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