[Partisan Gunslinger]

Obviously slavery was not their motivation, but they keep claiming that it was because it sounds more noble than the truth.

Preserving the United States was not noble?

[DiogenesLamp]

Preserving the United States was not noble?

To the same degree as preserving the United Kingdom.

My understanding is that the right of self determination was the founding principle of this nation. It seems that our government had forgotten this by the time of the Civil War.