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The dark side of meditation and mindfulness:...can trigger mania, depression and psychosis...
ukdailymail ^ | Harriet Crawford

Posted on 05/25/2015 5:22:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Meditation and mindfulness is promoted by celebrities including Gwyneth Paltrow and Russell Brand, who boast of its power to help people put stress out of their minds and live for the moment.

But the treatment can itself trigger mania, depression, hallucinations and psychosis, psychological studies in the UK and US have found.

The practice is part of a growing movement based on ancient Eastern traditions of meditation.

However, 60 per cent of people who had been on a meditation retreat had suffered at least one negative side effect, including panic, depression and confusion, a study in the US found.

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1 posted on 05/25/2015 5:22:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Verses from the Bible about meditation.
http://www.openbible.info/topics/meditation


2 posted on 05/25/2015 5:26:03 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks for posting this.


3 posted on 05/25/2015 5:31:17 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That is a lovely collection!

Thank you for posting that.


4 posted on 05/25/2015 5:40:44 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: BenLurkin

Many people who go on meditation retreats suffer from panic, depression and anxiety so having symptoms is not unusual.


5 posted on 05/25/2015 5:45:53 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: BenLurkin
What is a meditation retreat?

Something like a prayer meeting?

6 posted on 05/25/2015 5:47:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: BenLurkin
Back on a gruelling field assignment, I was attempting to read some new agey self-identification book a friend recommended. At the point where it got heavily into spirituality, I put the book down. I didn't need that horseshit when I had an 0330 to 2230 assignment in the oilfields of the Pe4mian Basin, 7 days a week... including getting shot at.

BTW... on the subject of "mindfulness", here's the best book review, EVER (Amazon has since taken it down):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3199467/posts?page=4#4

Enjoy.

7 posted on 05/25/2015 5:49:33 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Great verses.

Meditation in the context of those verses seems to be a more active, cerebral exercise. Putting the Lord and/or His laws before one's mind and contemplating them.

Most of what I read about modern meditation is completely anti-cerebral. The effort seems to be more about emptying one's mind.

Maybe that's the problem with modern meditation: an empty mind can be filled up with a lot of garbage.

8 posted on 05/25/2015 5:50:52 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: BenLurkin

Better to be unmindful. Go with that! lol


9 posted on 05/25/2015 5:56:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: BenLurkin

How to treat depression: stay busy and task focused. The patient will not have the time or energy for naval gazing.


10 posted on 05/25/2015 6:11:28 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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Suggest you pull the thread. Its beyond debunked. The author is a known huge quack. The backlash thats coming will be fun to watch.
11 posted on 05/25/2015 7:05:10 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: DariusBane
The patient will not have the time or energy for naval gazing.


12 posted on 05/25/2015 7:07:18 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: BenLurkin

Whne the Bible discusses meditation, it talks about “meditating on Gods’ Word”, meaning to think about a certain passage or phrase and ask God for insight. Not the new-age/hindu/buddhist form of meditation of trying to empty the mind of all thought, via a mindless chant of a word.


13 posted on 05/25/2015 7:13:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: waynesa98

“Backlash”?

Not a chance.

If there’s anyone here who actually takes meditation seriously, I’m sure they’ll calm themselves with a few deep breaths and some visualization.


14 posted on 05/25/2015 7:14:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: waynesa98
About me

I am a trainee reporter at the Daily Mail.

From 2011-13, I led research on family breakdown at the Centre for Social Justice thinktank.

I studied Newspaper Journalism MA at City University London and Geography BA Hons at the University of Oxford.

Please get in touch:
hrjcrawford@gmail.com
Follow @HCrawford_

Are you suggesting that those aren't stellar credentials?

15 posted on 05/25/2015 7:21:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Not the new-age/hindu/buddhist form of meditation of trying to empty the mind of all thought, via a mindless chant of a word.

No Buddhist teacher would ever suggest attempting to do that. If they do then you can be certain that they are not authentic.

16 posted on 05/25/2015 7:23:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: BenLurkin
"Meditation" is neurologically indistinguishable from relaxation. And relaxation training is an effective technique to counter anxiety. But any effective therapy or intervention will have the potential for negative side effects or reactions.

In addition, it needs to be used for the correct reasons, and best in conjunction with other therapies. It won't help for disorders like depression, psychosis, or bipolar if used by itself, or without guidance.

Being pimped by idiot celebrities is about the worst reason for trying this, or any therapy technique, on one's own.

17 posted on 05/25/2015 7:32:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Jack Hammer’s been doing Transcendental Meditation for more than forty years, and I’m not crazy yet.

Old, but not crazy.


18 posted on 05/25/2015 7:54:11 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: edpc

Ha ha!


19 posted on 05/25/2015 8:00:27 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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Meditation is supposed to bring one close to the spiritual world, but people forget that besides beings of light, beings of darkness ALSO live in the spiritual realm...


20 posted on 05/25/2015 8:44:38 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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