Posted on 05/08/2015 5:11:18 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
A few days ago the NC House passed a bill that lifts the ban on Sunday hunting (with a gun, you can already bow hunt on Sundays) on private property.
Still a ban within 500 yards of a church, and some other exclusions. Localities can reinstall the ban in the future if their local community wants to.
Great discussion of the liberty / social conservative dynamic at play. What say Freep nation?
PH bait.......
It goes back to the era of blue laws....used to be a lot of things banned on Sunday only.
This law is being protested by some pastors and others - defending the state’s “Christian heritage.” I am all about that, but I’m trying to find out where, in the Biblical Christian heritage, there is anything said about believers forcing non believers to honor the Sabbath, or forcing them to do anything at all frankly.
I follow Jesus, and I do not hunt...but I think the ban on private property is absurd, and this lifting is a good law.
You just took me on a walk down memory lane, lol. I remember seeing the shields blocking the beer from view in the refrigerated shelves at convenience stores. They couldn't remove them and sell beer until after 12 noon.
Joining you on Memory Lane where in the Kansas of my youth it was NO BEER sales on Sunday. We lived 3 miles north of Oklahoma and there was a roadhouse just across the border for a beer run. That place made its profit on Sunday beer sales to KS residents and made a pretty good burger, too. I've been in Kentucky the past couple of days and noted that the no Sunday sales is the law here yet today.
As to hunting on Sundays, my current state of Oklahoma used to limit quail hunting to certain days due to population management rather than concerns about where you spent your Sunday.
When I learned His Sabbath wasn’t Saturday or Sunday every week, it seemed certain scriptures had new meanings and the Sunday laws seemed more like Daniel 7:25...
In SC on the early 80s, you couldn’t buy things like batteries, etc, on Sunday.
I think blue laws were perhaps well intentioned, but very misguided and counter productive.
I think blue laws had a very weird name.
Not sure where you’re going with that (could be I need more coffee) - but I don’t necessarily agree with the parallel to Daniel 7:25.
It’s one thing for believers to keep the Sabbath - or keep the Shabbat - it’s quite another for them to legislate that everyone else has to as well.
the word blue was used in the 17th century as a disparaging reference to rigid moral codes and those who observed them, particularly in blue-stocking, a reference to Oliver Cromwell's supporters in the parliament of 1653.
Did the same thing. Funny. :)
I think the government land is not included because that would increase state spending......so it’s not a “blue” matter that it’s only on private land, it’s a practical matter.
The pastors’ arguments I saw? Were all about Christian heritage being preserved. But I don’t think forcing blue laws onto either non believers or believers who do not buy into the rules based legalism has anything to do with real Christianity.
That is exactly what these Sunday laws do..
Keep people from doing what they would not be prohibited to do on any ‘other day’.
It is man taking the authority to tell people what they can and not do on a day man has deemed holy.
Same thing that happens with December 25.
Daniel 7:25 is being fulfilled with the Julian and pope gregory Roman calendars that have changed time..
But today is His 4th day on His calendar. The 19th Day of His 2nd month. It happens to be the anniversary of the 4th day of manna from heaven.
And His first ‘Sabbath ‘ in the wilderness occurred on the 22nd day of His 2nd month. And that day is a pope Gregory Monday this year.
I am guessing thanks to Rome, most the world will be working or going to school on that day - or maybe a little hunting..
It is govt’s that have endorsed a calendar that has changed times and has caused them to write laws that confirm their conformity to the world..
And Rome has been known to mess with His top ten laws too..
That is why Daniel 7:25 applies...
But if today is Friya’s day to most, most wont see it..
It isn’t a lack of coffee that will make one see this..
It takes a renewing of one’s mind away from the coformity of the world..
Apparently, HE may just agree....I’m thinking first miracle - water into wine - into the GOOD wine.....
Kinda blows that religious teetotaler thing out of the water IMO.
But Daniel 7:25 was talking about HIS people. Blue laws impact ALL people, including those who are not HIS. That was my point.
Agreed. d:^)
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