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So, What Evidence Would Persuade You That Man-Made Climate Change Is Real?
Reason ^ | 04/04/2015 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 04/06/2015 7:06:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/06/2015 7:06:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Your mama, Ronald.


2 posted on 04/06/2015 7:08:56 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't see one single piece of evidence in this article that any warming is man-made. Did I miss something?
3 posted on 04/06/2015 7:11:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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"By how much? Summed over the past 35 years—that is, since the advent of satellite monitoring—temperatures have increased by at most 0.56 C°"

A half a degree fluctuation? THAT'S IT????

And they want to spend $TRILLIONS and turn over to government control of all industry?

And they call us morons...

4 posted on 04/06/2015 7:12:51 AM PDT by Mr. K (“Imma go out like muthafking Tupac muh n-word yeah bleeved dat”)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ronald would fail high school physics.


5 posted on 04/06/2015 7:14:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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You know AGW is a lie when they keep changing it's name: Global warming, climate change, climate disruption, climate chaos, carbon pollution, ad nauseum...

Man-made global "anything" is fiction.

It's the new Communism.

6 posted on 04/06/2015 7:14:39 AM PDT by PROCON (It's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled -- Mark Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the Sun eventually, inevitably, draws its last breath, there will be permanent global cooling and all scientists and Al Gore will be joyous.


7 posted on 04/06/2015 7:14:47 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1) Significantly warmer temperatures on a global scale that are verifiable. (So far that is not the case.)

2) The temperatures need to be elevated for 30-years without stops and starts.

3) Those exact temperature increases need to be accurately predicted by a computer model that does not get changed to meet the new data.

4) There must be a scientifically valid and repeatable scientific experimental model that ties in man’s activities with the increased temperature.

Get those things and I will move significantly from my skepticism.

Oldplayer


8 posted on 04/06/2015 7:15:25 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

Actual physics showing an exponential increase in EMR energy absorption when CO2 ratio goes from 100 to 200 PPM. By exponential it would take a huge factor because of the small percentage of the atmosphere represented. It would have to be an overall EMR absorption increase not just a fixed frequency that represents no actual thermal energy. It would have to be provable by actually changing the whole body’s reflection and emission of energy back into space. Since global warming is NEVER presented in actual terms of physics I’m not too concerned that I will soon be convinced.


9 posted on 04/06/2015 7:15:41 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Maybe they really want what they wanted in Sodom.)
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Simple...I want evidence that the rate of global warming is accelerating...and that this acceleration is increasing.


10 posted on 04/06/2015 7:15:44 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: SeekAndFind
He's swallowed the Kool-Aid and believes all the false "studies" and articles. He's a "low-information" science writer somewhat akin to "Bill Nye the Science Guy" (albeit without the broader progressive agenda beliefs).
11 posted on 04/06/2015 7:16:04 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: PROCON

you didn’t get the memo?

Global warming happens in the summer, climate change happens in the winter because it’s hard to tell people in the winter who are moving 4 foot of snow it’s warming.


12 posted on 04/06/2015 7:17:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not peer reviewed so irrelevant. ;-)

I’d like to see him debate Lord Monckton or any of the folks here:

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/environment/story.html?id=c6a32614-f906-4597-993d-f181196a6d71

“Climate change: The Deniers: The Post’s series on scientists who buck the conventional wisdom on climate science”

I use that example because it is from the time the disingenuous author changed his mind.


13 posted on 04/06/2015 7:17:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ability to accurately predict would be evidence they understand the mechanisms. Even using a model and then filling in the inputs as they happen and getting the right result would be nice. That the models continuously go off the rails in only 5-10 years without revision suggests that they don’t actually understand the important and importance of mechanisms.

Even sceptics don’t argue that man has not impacted climate in some measure...but the evidence so far is that it is somewhere between “lost in the noise”, and less than half the effect.


14 posted on 04/06/2015 7:17:51 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

When Al Gore is your spokesperson, it’s really hard to believe anything you say.


15 posted on 04/06/2015 7:18:38 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will believe it when liberals start accepting that they might possibly be wrong. Until then, it is cult-think.


16 posted on 04/06/2015 7:18:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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...reject well-substantiated new knowledge...

There is no well substantiated data in this article. Indeed, mentioning satellite data from the 50s, ignoring that measurements are now available from many different locales, and ignoring temperature differences measured on other planets seems to be some of the least of the assumptions made. The author assumes that if there is warming, it is man-made. The author buys into the false CO2 preceding temperature rise meme. There is nothing here to change the mind of anyone who examines their data.

17 posted on 04/06/2015 7:18:56 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: House Atreides

The only difference between this article and the rest making the case for AGW is this one has the, “but I changed my mind so read my article” twist. Other than that it’s the same old tripe.

As soon as an article makes CO2 the bad guy I stop taking it seriously.


18 posted on 04/06/2015 7:20:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the warming has been MASKED for the past 18 years (for whatever reasons the algorists want to cite), then how can they also cite EVIDENCE of EFFECTS OF THE WARMING???

How can the warming be MASKED and at the same time CAUSING EFFECTS???

No one ever addresses this question.


19 posted on 04/06/2015 7:20:23 AM PDT by samtheman
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What would make me think we caused it is to change the history of climate change. If the world had experienced little to no change until the Industrial Revolution and then the climate started to change that would be a wake up call.

Another thing that keeps me from believing man-made climate change is the people who embrace it most had an agenda before they adopted the belief.

It could be warming, I don't really know because they have been caught in so many lies and exagerrations I just don't think that we caused it.

20 posted on 04/06/2015 7:20:40 AM PDT by tiki
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