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Disabling Russian Tanks

Posted on 03/06/2015 7:37:38 PM PST by Hootowl

This is possibly a dumb suggestion, but why can't the Ukrainians use small drones flying at night to drop thermite grenades on Russian tanks? Would the thermite be able to burn through the armor and into the engine or fuel compartment?


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1 posted on 03/06/2015 7:37:38 PM PST by Hootowl
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Didn’t czech/slovak citizens used to put cut logs in the treads of soviet tanks during various ‘events?’


2 posted on 03/06/2015 7:41:55 PM PST by posterchild (It takes a politician to declare a settled science.)
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I was actually watching a program a couple of hours ago about the Russian capture of Berlin.

The Russian veteran they were interviewing said they first tried to take the city using armor but the Germans had a weapon called the Panzerfaust which would cut right through the tanks armor.

He said they had to withdraw the tanks and lead with infantry then the tanks behind them.

They defined the word pazerfaust as meaning “armor fist” but I am not sure they got it right.


3 posted on 03/06/2015 7:44:16 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Hootowl

Most war drones use guided missiles/bombs to attack their objective. To use a drone to “drop” a grenade on a tank would, in my opinion, be very inaccurate and not very effective.


4 posted on 03/06/2015 7:47:11 PM PST by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: Hootowl
If the tank engines are running, the US has a smart fused bomb that contains rocket propelled heat seeking shaped charges that parachute down, looking for targets, and self destruct if none found.

Expensive, but it also demoralized troops when they see one pass take out a bunch of vehicles. In Iraq, a light marine battalion was going up against Iraqi armor, and called in air support. One or two bombs took out a third of the Iraqi vehicles, and the Iraqis surrendered.

5 posted on 03/06/2015 7:51:08 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: yarddog

Akin to our WWLL bazooka. A forerunner of the RPG. Single infantry portable tank killer.


6 posted on 03/06/2015 7:51:23 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Hootowl

A shape charge buried in the road that could be detonated remotely would be better.


7 posted on 03/06/2015 7:52:46 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: yarddog

WWLL = WWII


8 posted on 03/06/2015 7:53:41 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Hootowl

Ukies aren’t all that intelligent to be completely un-P.C. and truthful with you. I knew a few in college.


9 posted on 03/06/2015 7:55:13 PM PST by Rodamala
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Obama isn’t going to give the Ukrainians anything but a Russian conquest and renewed communism.


10 posted on 03/06/2015 7:55:54 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: yarddog

A rocket-propelled shaped charge, the Germans fired it (I believe) with the tube under their arm. It was popular with German militia as Russian tanks began streaming into the Fatherland. Like the AK-47 and the Stuhrmgehwehr, the first assault rifle, after the US M-2 auto. carbine, the Rooskies copied the Germans, but fired their RPGs on the shoulder.
The Germans liked our bazooka and made their own version, the ‘panzerschrek’ or armor terror.
The Germans even had a wire-guided tank killing bomb, invented the first night vision ‘Vampyre’ and became expert in surrendering such things to Americans.
USA USA USA!


11 posted on 03/06/2015 7:58:07 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: yarddog
Germans had a weapon called the Panzerfaust

Here's a link to a site showing some WW II Germans being trained to use the Panzerfaust. Note that in the second picture a civilian woman (!) is being trained. The soldier training her must have been sick to his stomach.

Panzerfaust

12 posted on 03/06/2015 8:00:58 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: yarddog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust


13 posted on 03/06/2015 8:01:23 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Well it might work but somebody would have to sneak up and physically attach the thermite to the tank as a grenade would not stick upon contact. It would just roll off.

What the Ukranians need is about 500 Javelins. They could really punish the Russians/separatists with those.


14 posted on 03/06/2015 8:02:16 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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15 posted on 03/06/2015 8:02:50 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Thanks, turns out their definition was correct.

I noticed immediately that it looked just about like an RPG which seems to be really popular was Communists, Cannibals, and Muslims.


16 posted on 03/06/2015 8:04:45 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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17 posted on 03/06/2015 8:08:58 PM PST by Rodamala
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You people are behind the times.

In Iraq in 2003, 500-pound concrete dud training smart bombs were used to destroy tanks sitting between houses from the air without collateral damage, but with the inertial energy of the falling block alone. With their accuracy, the concrete blocks went right through the turret tops and turned tanks into instant scrap piles. Usually knocked the turret entirely off.


18 posted on 03/06/2015 8:11:42 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: yarddog

There’s been multiple replies but nobody has really broke it down yet. The panzerfaust was a shape charge launched by a small explosive charge. It was a throw away weapon similar to the LAW from the VietNam era. At the end of WWII the Germans handed out panzerfausts like candy. I have read instances of US Soldiers not treating panzerfaust users kindly. Enuff said...

The Panzerschreck was the predecessor to the US bazooka. It was a reloadable anti tank rocket launcher.

The Russians after WWII took the best aspects of the panzerfaust and panzerschreck and developed the RPG. The RPG-7 is probably the most produced anti-anything rocket grenade ever, period, bar nothing. There’s been more RPG-7 rounds produced than there are stars in the sky.


19 posted on 03/06/2015 8:11:58 PM PST by Tailback
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I believe it had a little flip-up sight but like the American ‘thumper’ grenade thrower/werfer, I suspect it was pretty much—point at enemy, pull trigger and that’s good enough for govt./party work.


20 posted on 03/06/2015 8:14:20 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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