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World's Simplest Electric Train
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Posted on 02/04/2015 9:48:51 PM PST by Swordmaker

Look at this simple structure electric train made of just magnet,copper wire and a dry cell.

Just a cool, inexpensive scientific effect that might be fun to play with.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: toys; train
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1 posted on 02/04/2015 9:48:51 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: All

For the kids in all of us. . .


2 posted on 02/04/2015 9:49:55 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Now, that’s cool.


3 posted on 02/04/2015 9:52:07 PM PST by sparklite2
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To: 1FreeAmerican; A. Patriot; AndrewC; antonia; aristotleman; Boogieman; Carilisa; Churchjack; ...

For the electric Universe PING list. . .

Well it is Electric. . . but not exactly Universal. However there is a point to it if you saw the latest video from Thunderbolts.info on Birkland currents and the coiled magnetic fields and how the flow moves through them.


4 posted on 02/04/2015 9:52:44 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Hey, that’s pretty cool!


5 posted on 02/04/2015 9:52:57 PM PST by Beowulf9
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Hey, that’s pretty cool!

I thought so. . . makes me want to go get some magnets, a battery, and some copper wire.

6 posted on 02/04/2015 9:55:43 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

:) Definitely.


7 posted on 02/04/2015 10:05:35 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Swordmaker

like


8 posted on 02/04/2015 10:19:14 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Swordmaker

Nice.


9 posted on 02/04/2015 10:19:59 PM PST by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Swordmaker
Still have not gotten around to making one of those linear accelerators I saw something about a few years ago.

Besides, where do you get copper coils like that? Would drive my cats crazy if I taped the ends together and let it run.

10 posted on 02/04/2015 10:26:38 PM PST by doorgunner69
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Besides, where do you get copper coils like that? Would drive my cats crazy if I taped the ends together and let it run.

Buy some copper wire and wrap it around a dowel until you have enough. Pull the dowel out. Done. A lot easier than the two foot tall 40,000 turn Tesla secondary coil a made with 28 gauge copper wire I made when I was in Junior High School.

11 posted on 02/04/2015 10:34:58 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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Probably a pretty good drain on the small battery, heavy current flow through a big, relatively low resistance coil, but still a kick.


12 posted on 02/04/2015 10:39:23 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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Yes, very clever. The magnets are doing double duty as electrical contacts. The current flows through them and the included wire coil. This current doesn't affect the magnets directly, but they interact with the field produced by the current in the coil to propel the "train".

so, representing the magnetic polarity of the magnets on the end, and the coil in the center, it has to be

+- -......+ -+

to run to the left, or

-+ -......+ +-

to run to the right.

-+ -......+ -+ and +- -......+ +-

won't go anywhere. I'm out on a limb here! But that's got to be right.

13 posted on 02/04/2015 10:40:36 PM PST by dr_lew
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Looks like that to me, basically the magnets polarity have to oppose each other.

Another thing, when he connects both ends of the coil together, wouldn't it really be two coils in parallel with the battery (short one and one long) each drawing current?

14 posted on 02/04/2015 10:51:06 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Swordmaker

Say, maglev ain’t expensive after all . . . !


15 posted on 02/04/2015 10:52:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Would be interesting to put a Compass next to the coil and observe the needle as the battery passed by.
Then it would be known if the larger of the two coils was causing a power loss of any significance.


16 posted on 02/04/2015 11:25:59 PM PST by moose07 (The Camels have reached the parking lot. Shields up!)
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Yeah, I have several questions for myself on what is really happening, will probably wait till I'm less sleepy to think it out, LOL!

You would think the 2nd coil (long one) is setting up a magnetic field that opposes the one created by the primary coil (shorter one), but I'm sleepy :)

17 posted on 02/04/2015 11:35:54 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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Looks like that to me, basically the magnets polarity have to oppose each other.

Yes, a beautiful example of an argument from symmetry. If

+- +......- +- runs to the left, then

+- -......+ +- must run to the right,

but each of these is equivalent to itself under direction reversal and change of sign convention, which is arbitrary, so that can't be right.

Another thing, when he connects both ends of the coil together, wouldn't it really be two coils in parallel with the battery (short one and one long) each drawing current?

Yes, it looks like this:

...+ -+ +......- +- -...

where the front and back connect to form one coil. The coils share magnetic poles at each end because the current flows into and out of each in the same direction. So, they both act in the same direction, and the motion is reinforced. In the "nonworking" case we have

...+ -+ +......- -+ -... or

...+ +- +......- +- -...

but since the magnets cannot move toward or away from each other, this is still the nonworking case.

18 posted on 02/04/2015 11:47:31 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Swordmaker
This video alone could have saved Radio Shack... too bad they wanted to be a stupid cellphone store instead. They would have done better as a "batteries, magnets, and copper wire store".
19 posted on 02/05/2015 12:25:42 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: doorgunner69

A friend of mine 20 years ago made chain mail to sell at Ren Faires. The easiest way to make the loops was to wind soft steel wire around a dowel using a drill motor clamped in a vice (and then he would slit the coil with a dreamed motor with a thin cutting wheel... diagonal pliers were a bit sloppy).


20 posted on 02/05/2015 12:30:10 AM PST by Rodamala
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