Posted on 02/03/2015 8:17:14 AM PST by redreno
The latest on the wedding cake beat: The state of Oregon has formally ruled that a bakery in Gresham discriminated against a gay couple who wanted to purchase a wedding cake. The state’s Bureau of Labor and Industries could fine the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, which has since closed its doors and become a home bakery in response to the controversy, up to $150,000.
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I’d leave the state and change my identity before I paid these bast**ds one red cent.
It sounds as if the state of Oregon is discriminating against them.
$150,000 ?
Shouldn’t the state of Oregon just place the bakery owners in the middle of an arena full of hungry lions?
Precident set some 1800 years ago in Italy.
$150,000 fine for refusing to bake a cake rises to the level of cruel and unusual punishment.
Confiscatory tickets are highway robbery and a way to continue funding more government.
A "bill of attainder" is any act of a legislative body declaring a person or group of persons guilty of a crime and assessing a punishment without the benefit of trial. The Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 provides that: "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed."
Bills of attainder were commonly used in England during the 18th century and were applied to the British colonies. Anger over the application of bills attainder in the colonies was one of the motivations for the American Revolution.
As James Madison wrote in, Federalist Number 44, "Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligations of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation. ... The sober people of America are weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public councils. They have seen with regret and indignation that sudden changes and legislative interferences, in cases affecting personal rights, become jobs in the hands of enterprising and influential speculators, and snares to the more-industrious and less-informed part of the community."
Sounds like James Madison was way ahead in his thinking & that the Constitution is very clear on this point. There seem to be many who want to push a concept & then hopefully find a court who will back them up no matter how ludicrous their argument is.
People in OR embrace any and all aspects of liberalism and will forever.
They say that “cruel and unusual punishment” applies only in criminal cases, not the popular liberal civil suits like this one.
Another question came to mind in this situation. Let’s say the bakery is fined the 150k & the fine is collected. Where does that money go? To the ones who were “offended” or is it plowed back into the state treasury where either way it will serve to promote more of the same abuse?
Freedom means being forced to endorse homosexuality.
Anger over the application of bills attainder in the colonies was one of the motivations for the American Revolution.
Bake the cake....If anyone in their right mind would eat a cake that someone was FORCED to bake for them....they aren’t in their right mind...X-Lax makes a delicious chocolate frosting and of course you can’t guarantee that all of your employees washed their hands every time that they are supposed to and etc. etc.
Homosexuals who act on their homosexual desires are sinful (according to the Bible, which I accept as absolute truth - God does not make mistakes). I can live with sinful friends and neighbors.
Those who filed this lawsuit are pure evil. They are absolutely disgusting and should be shunned by decent people for the rest of their lives - shunned because they are thugs and bullies, not because they are gay.
The bakers need to file BK let them go eat cake elsewhere!!!!!!
Like the people that refused to bake the cake?
Agreed. I would rather destroy everything I own and declare bankruptcy than pay a fine of this nature and directly support those who filed this evil lawsuit.
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