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To: rockrr

It is strange but Lincoln did not outlaw slavery in the U.S.

He issued the Emancipation Proclamation which freed the Slaves in the South which were under U.S. Control. For instance Ulysses Grant did not free his until the 13th amendment.


3 posted on 02/02/2015 7:41:51 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

He was known to have owned maybe one slave, a man name William Jones, whom Grant gave his freedom in 1859.


6 posted on 02/02/2015 7:59:50 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: yarddog

Lincoln knew that it would take an amendment to the US Constitution in order to formally end slavery. He also knew that he could order the freeing of slaves in areas affected by the rebellion.

It immediately emancipated somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 slaves.


7 posted on 02/02/2015 8:01:36 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: yarddog
He issued the Emancipation Proclamation which freed the Slaves in the South which were under U.S. Control.

You've got it exactly backwards. He 'freed' the slaves in those areas which were NOT under US control.

For example:

" Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans) ...irginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued. "

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/transcript.html

15 posted on 02/02/2015 8:12:41 PM PST by PAR35
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To: yarddog

Technically the EP freed slaves in southern areas not under Federal control

Border states and southern areas under Union occupation were exempted

They did not want blacks freed where they still needed them under a firm hand or what hell to do with them

Funny how the Parse was in use even then....politicians are what they are

And the myth of history runs with it

I wonder how Obama will be excused away given his specialness


47 posted on 02/02/2015 11:45:43 PM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: yarddog
He issued the Emancipation Proclamation which freed the Slaves in the South which were under U.S. Control.

From his standpoint they were still part of the country so Lincoln did free slaves in the U.S., albeit not all of it.

For instance Ulysses Grant did not free his until the 13th amendment.

That's not true. Grant freed is one slave in 1859 and the Dent family slaves were freed or had run off by 1864.

54 posted on 02/03/2015 3:43:41 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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