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To: Calvin Locke
5.) Define “philanthropy”. My guess is it’s a way of paying off pols, one way or another, in Apple’s case, or diverting funds to pet causes of board members or corporate officers.

Under Jobs, you'd be wrong. Apple did not make political contributions. As CEO Jobs left that to the Employees' Political Action Committee. . . which received no funding from Apple Inc. at all. Apple had one of the smallest lobbying footprints in Washington, D.C. of any tech corporation and also made no political donations to candidates. Even Steve Jobs' political donations were very minor compared to others at his level. . . in the ten years prior to his death, he donated less than $100,000 to political candidates. . . and certainly did not do what Bill Gates and Steve Balmer did in donating half an million dollars each to anti-gun groups.

Apple did belong to non-profit industry associations that some considered "Green" such as e-PEAT, and the like. . . but even Greenpeace said that was only for marketing purposes, to get the e-PEAT seals environmental approval on their products.

88 posted on 01/19/2015 2:36:34 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Yes, Jobs, upon his last return to Apple, eliminated some program for employee charitable giving.

Janet Reno went after Microsoft for something or another, and previously, their lobbying effort was pretty small, and the talk was that it was to spur MS to hire lobbyists, aka former congresscritters and other political hacks.

Not really up on what political contributions were personally or corporate, historically or currently.

e-Peat and the like are, in my mind, just shakedowns, appealing to the low information consumer, and just another economic barrier to innovation to protect big corporations from startups like Apple once was.

Protect the environment? There's reality, and then there's the "religious" view. A presentation years ago by a guy from Polaroid stated obvious that if you don't produce hazardous waste, you don't have to dispose of it.

New product development may have to be "less clean" in the beginning. That, the original ketchup squeeze bottle was made from something like seven different plastic layers that didn't recycle well, if at all. (I generally prefer glass over plastic for food, but plastic has its places and uses)

Likewise, finding the most practical energy efficient way to operate is also obvious, but flies in the face of the "environmental religion" on so many levels. Electric cars have a very large energy footprint. Biodiesel costs more for less energy, not to mention the extra energy costs hauling around less efficient fuel, and more fueling stops.

As for my "diverting funds", isn't Algor still on the board of Apple? I'd bet his pet scams are getting Apple money now.

107 posted on 01/19/2015 4:17:47 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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