Posted on 01/17/2015 1:13:02 PM PST by WhiskeyX
Talking to an old tread head here. I am very familiar with both the heat round and apds. The video from the article was neither one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkP_O7xHNX0
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That’s a telephoto lens. Not short range at all.
“Talking to an old tread head here. I am very familiar with both the heat round and apds. The video from the article was neither one.”
Here’s HEAT and APDS combined into one (g):
APDS - Lady Style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELzZwImTREs
If it is telephoto then this could be real.
The shockwave is coming off the back of the shell, most fakers would forget that.
To much internet fakery to be certain ,i`ll leave it as plausible, then. :)
I, for one, say it’s real. The round appears to be a standard fin stabilized High Explosive round. Unlike the hypersonic Depleted-Uranium or other armor piercing rounds which have a much smaller diameter and discard their sabots and penetrate with only kinetic energy, HE rounds fly much slower and explode on contact.....I have seen enough of them sent down range from behind & beside tanks (I was a Mech Infantry Bradley guy) to see the trajectory is not terribly flat and you can actually see the round fly. The AP rounds move much faster and have a much flatter trajectory and can only be seen from their tracer trail as they fly. Also, although I do not remember all the Soviet series tanks off the top of my head with out looking them up again, I seem to recall that most of the more modern Soviet made tanks since the late 70’s have 120 smooth bore main guns (to allow for greater muzzle velocity) and require fin stabilizers on many of their rounds.
Allahu Snackbar... to your mother.
Not one to poke fun at the misery of others, but that statement on the video was fall down funny!
The secondary in-flight explosion... is that sabot ejection? Why bother not just sending the round intact?
Per the narrator “ the man hasn’t got any action since “
Now that’s just not funny.
Later
If you watch Hickok45’s youtube videos you can easily see a fired round traveling 1200+ fps heading downrange to the big gong. This is a much further distance, but it would also be traveling faster, so the number of frames of video is roughly the same. There is no reason I can see offhand that this couldn’t be real. It correctly shows ballistic flight and a shock wave, which fakers might not get right.
Looks like a T72M firing a BK-14m HEAT round.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:125mm_BK-14m_HEAT.JPG
Same with the HE fired from the Sheridan.
Well that’s not a STAFF or MPAT round
I too have seen CEV rounds in flight
I like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHPURnsNPew
You are right. The thought of the video being doctored didn’t even cross my mind...there were too many other environmental variables that were “right.” If the shot was faked, it probably would have had other things which would have been built into the video besides the actual shot.
Ref seeing bullets; I remember when we still had .45s in the Army inventory and you could see the rounds flying at targets on the range. I didn’t think you could ever see a bullet in flight, but they were quite visible. The 9mm were harder to see, but if you were standing behind a shooter, you could usually see the rounds in flight.
I thought so too. :)
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