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‘Dozens of vehicles’ involved in crashes on New Hampshire interstate
Twitchy ^ | January 2, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 01/02/2015 9:12:32 AM PST by C19fan

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To: cripplecreek

I hear ya!

I go play in it.


21 posted on 01/02/2015 9:51:29 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: bramps

Yeah. I’m guessing they were running 70 or 80 mph bumper to bumper when they should have slowed to 45 or 50 and spread themselves out.


22 posted on 01/02/2015 9:52:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: SamAdams76
We have both extremes here in SW Pennsylvania. You've got to wonder why it seems like nobody has ever heard of shifting down a gear. Yeah, I know these modern ATs are designed to do it for you, but you can detect it a lot faster with the feel of the road surface and an occasional glace at your tachometer . . . often fast enough to prevent a spin-out or worse.

Then we have the "Timid Tillies" in this hilly country, who will often brake going UP a hill, just when you need to keep a steady speed to get to the top. 20-25 mph in a low gear usually does it, but not when you are stuck behind one of these idiots. A mile of traffic can stack up in a hurry as most of them lack the courtesy and common sense to just pull out of the way and prefer to just keep spinning their wheels and blocking traffic instead.

23 posted on 01/02/2015 9:58:20 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cripplecreek; a fool in paradise

great idea for a TV show

“Ice Road Morons”


24 posted on 01/02/2015 9:58:46 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: grania

Actually its worse in the south because of the frequency.

I was in RI last February and was impressed with the lack of cars on the road and the folks ability to clear them.
It seems every home in Kingston had a plow.


25 posted on 01/02/2015 9:59:23 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: C19fan
Alfred E. Dumbmann:

"What, me slow down?"

26 posted on 01/02/2015 10:22:33 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: nascarnation; eyedigress
As a former Cleveland resident, I’m convinced that the winter driving skill set for many folks does a full reset to zero each year. So until they’ve experienced multiple days of slippery roads in a winter season, the wreckin’ is rampant.

I used to think that, too.

But perhaps there's ANOTHER explanation:

Usually, the first few snows fall on pavement whose underlayment (the first foot or two of roadbed) has not yet frozen. The unfrozen roadbed busily thaws the fallen snow on top of the cold pavement, which is exposed to the freezing temperatures.

You're more likely to end up with a thin glaze of ice under those conditions, whereas later in the season, the falling snow stays cold, and doesn't melt, providing better traction. I have a buddy whose commercial dump truck becomes absolutely undriveable in such conditions - he explained the mechanics of it.

Once the roadbed freezes a month or two into winter, he's good to go.

27 posted on 01/02/2015 10:33:21 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: SamAdams76

WMUR out of Manchester says a whiteout snow squall was the cause of the chain reaction. Nobody could see.
Everybody must have been in a hurry to get to Loon or Cannon Mtn.

http://www.wmur.com/news/50100-car-pileup-in-ashalnd/30498106


28 posted on 01/02/2015 10:34:57 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: cripplecreek

Rusty’s Towing out of Tilton, NH is having a BIG day.


29 posted on 01/02/2015 10:37:09 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: kiryandil

Per comment 28 it was a whiteout with high winds in the mountains. The roadways have been frozen through up there. Canadian truckers played a large part too. They pay no attention to laws as they routinely make a RT daily to the Boston area.

For those who have traveled that stretch of 93, it is smooth and conducive to run fast, except in bad weather.

In a week or two I will be up there weekly skiing and for the most part the state keeps it down to bare pavement.


30 posted on 01/02/2015 10:54:05 AM PST by Omniscient Certitude
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To: woodbutcher1963
I said the same thing to my wife...'tow trucks are making a killing off of this'...

Not much you can do about a squall...you're sailing along on a sunny day about 70 MPH; then bam! White out, and you can't see squat. Ice cold pavement greases up immediately, and you're guest of honor in a game of bumper cars. North or south, there's nothing you can do.

31 posted on 01/02/2015 11:00:11 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Omniscient Certitude

People got caught with their pants down...there is no snow on the ground in much of Red Hampshire, and roads were snow and ice-free. But like they say; if you don’t like the weather, just wait a minute.


32 posted on 01/02/2015 11:05:12 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
The roads were all iced, and you wouldn’t know it unless you tried to brake.

I was involved in a 30-plus car affair along those lines. It was just before Christmas, maybe 20 years ago, on a long, sweeping curve in southern Indiana, on I-64. Good visibility. You came around the curve and immediately saw a massive pileup about a half miles ahead. Naturally you started to brake. Instantly you slid. Foot off the gas, I braked, skidded, recovered, and braked again ... three times, and was finally rolling to slow stop at maybe five miles an hour as I finally came up on the wreck. Braked again, skidded again, and decided to go off the road below the wreck. Would have made it too, except some fool sailed into the mess ahead and above me, hit, spun around, and was gunning his engine and spinning his wheels wildly in a panic. He slid right into me, and all I could do was decide where on the front bumper to take the hit.

Moral of the story: there is such a thing as ice on which you cannot stop, until you roll to a dead stop.

33 posted on 01/02/2015 1:34:46 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Mears
Aw,come on. In certain driving conditions the driver has absolutely no control of the car.

Exactly. That's why I ride a motorcycle.

34 posted on 01/02/2015 1:58:36 PM PST by OA5599
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To: kiryandil

Agree a lot of folks don’t understand that the absolute slipperiest conditions (driving or walking) are when it’s right at the freezing mark and you have a thin water layer interface on the ice.

I’ve driven in northern Canada on ice roads at -40F and they have good grip.


35 posted on 01/02/2015 2:15:41 PM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: Slambat

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/22/texas-highway-pileup-crash_n_2175909.html

Lol. Texans appear to have their own issues with speed and adverse road conditions.

Lack of common sense knows no political boundaries.


36 posted on 01/02/2015 2:33:27 PM PST by dmz
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To: who knows what evil?

It is still New Hampshire, one of the free states that still lead the nation in independence and taxation (low taxes related to our wealth), so I disregard the “red” comment.

The county I reside in, Rockingham, a seacoast county bordering on Massachusetts, is perhaps the most conservative in the nation, based on the vote. If Portsmouth was cast aside, it would be unanimous.

The counties that cause NH to vote for the likes of Shaheen are near VT and in the north country. The southwestern counties are inhabited by remnants of former art communes and publishing houses from NY city. The north country are just poor. They used to work in wood products, make paper, and sustain a life within the cost of living. Federal taxes and regulation have changed the calculus.

NH is not red, the voters just realize which political party helps them live based on the present conditions.

While the residents of Rockingham may be very conservative regarding fiscal issues it is the opposite for Coos and other northern counties. They are liberal (IE, enjoy food stamps and heating oil allowances) but are very conservative respecting the second amendment and other issues conservative.

The rich in my county wish to keep their wealth and their earnings but perhaps may be a bit more liberal respecting social issues.

That in a nutshell is the complexity of NH. We are a rich state with a volunteer government, across the board, and for that we continue to rate in the top few of places to live and to raise children. For that, and the fact that where else can one live an hour from the “hub of the universe” a half-hour from ocean beaches, and a short drive to wonderful forests and ski areas?


37 posted on 01/02/2015 3:02:54 PM PST by Omniscient Certitude
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To: Omniscient Certitude
LOL...my in-laws, who were born here; refer to the other residents of RH as 'commies'. They re-elected Shaheen, Hassan and Kuster to office; three of the most rabid supporters of abortion you can imagine...the OTHER reason I refer to this state as 'Red Hampshire'. Electricity costs are spiking, the tree hugging wackos are fighting yet ANOTHER pipeline designed to keep residents warm during the looooong and dreary winters, it costs a fortune to register a car, and property taxes are off the charts, which drives the cost of a rental thru the roof. (Don't even get me started on the oppressive regulatory climate in this state...it drives farmers and small business owners NUTS.)

Your post strikes me as propaganda cut and pasted from the 'Free State Project' webpages. Red Hampshire is NOT a good place to raise children...not by a long shot.

If you like Red Hampshire, fine. Some people are happy with Massachusetts, Vermont, even Rhode Island. If you're a conservative in the mold of Mitt Romney, Jim Jeffords, Susan Collins or Lincoln Chaffee; you would probably like it here. But no Cruz/Blackburn/Palin conservative in their right mind should even THINK about moving to this area.

Ick.

38 posted on 01/02/2015 3:34:52 PM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: dmz

“Lol. Texans appear to have their own issues with speed and adverse road conditions.”

Yea every now and then we get some kook from the
northeastern communist block roll through and really
screw things up.

Posted 11/22/2012 yep you had to go way out of your way
to find that one and the huffpo to boot.


39 posted on 01/02/2015 4:52:23 PM PST by Slambat
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To: Slambat

Google is our friend. So is having a sense of humor.


40 posted on 01/02/2015 4:54:42 PM PST by dmz
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