Posted on 12/04/2014 10:38:25 AM PST by C19fan
Jay Gruden wanted Robert Griffin III to succeed, but he felt he had no choice last week other than to bench the Washington Redskins’ once-apparent franchise savior despite the wide-ranging consequences. And while it’s unclear whether owner Dan Snyder and President and General Manager Bruce Allen are in lockstep with their coach, it’s helpful to examine what convinced Gruden that the franchise must part ways with the 2012 offensive rookie of the year.
By making the bold move, Gruden has set the tone about Griffin’s future as the offseason draws near, and the power of Gruden’s assessment will be crucial as he tries to persuade Snyder and Allen to follow him.
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I really felt like RG3 was over hyped during his Rookie season and Andrew Luck was all but dismissed by football fans.
Skins gave up three 1st round picks for this guy and they’ll be lucky to a single second round pick for him in a trade. Biggest bust ever.
This is going to become a problem because of the problems that are swarming around this nation, this means all the race issues hat are being trumped up at this time.
Skins are going to be mediocre for at least another five years. Allen needs to be fired for this debacle.
Gruden may be the first guy bold enough to actually get into Dan Snyder’s face on something.
I think if RG III gets the proper recovery from his injuries and is tutored by a coach that is known for good quarterback tutoring (read: Chip Kelly of the Eagles), I can actually see RG III become a good QB again.
I said that from the beginning. His trick was figured out and when he was hit, he got hit hard and he got injured. He should have sat out most of 2013 and returned 2014 as a pure pocket passer and then take his lumps. There is talent there, the question is whether it’s NFL caliber talent and the Redskins should give him a try because of the investment IMO. The division will still be there in two years. It will have two teams with aging QBs and a team with a gimmick oriented HC.
It’s entrenched because the talent pool on defense doesn’t allow for anything else.
They all can run, all those you listed have run, they just get injured very fast.
Exactly. NFL adapts to these video-game players. If you are a better runner than passer/thinker, you won’t last long. These guys get all the hype for about 2 years and never win you anything. Excuses after excuses. They are marketing tools.
“Looks like Griffin = Ryan Leaf.”
Way too soon to know that for sure. Griffin is a good kid; it remains to be seen if he can be a good NFL quarterback. I’m hoping the best for him.
BTW, Ryan Leaf was released from state prison in Montana yesterday, but he could still be extradited to Texas and thrown into state prison there for Texas felony parole violation.
some scout or GM is gonna be asking...
Every time I hear a rookie interview, of a former college star, regarding life in the NFL, the first thing they talk about is how much more speed there is at the next level.
Shot gun QBs are and will never be successful in the NFL because they never learn to read defenses.
Cunningham/Culpepper/Vick/Tebow now Smith/Newton/RG III........these guy don’t know the three step drop. They don’t know progressions, they don’t know reads. They know to stare at the target and if he’s not open, then run.
They usually have some early success and then defenses get keen to their tricks and they become pedestrian or their legs get weak and they can’t run from the pressure.
Fantasy stats aside - Manning, Luck, Brees, Brady......all smart, all pocket QBs, all study defensive schemes.....not just plays.
Favre certainly is the exception, but even he stood in the pocket and took licks to get a pass off.
Griffin had 1 good season.
Looks like Griffin = Ryan Leaf.
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Not even close.
RG may not be all that, but their career stats tell a very different story than the one you are telling.
And I hate all things Redskins. For the record.
“It’s entrenched because the talent pool on defense doesn’t allow for anything else. They all can run, all those you listed have run, they just get injured very fast.”
And, once their running game goes away, the defenses adjust and it’s a whole lot harder to pass. You can’t really evaluate a running quarterback from their college game as a pocket passer because defenses always had to assume they would tuck the ball and run. That made passing a lot easier. A great pocket passer is still a better draft pick than a great passer/runner for these reasons.
There are very, very few Steve Youngs.
They’re just milquetoast because milquetoast lets you blame the players for lack of executions or blame the front office for personnel decisions. When a coach gets fired for losing, he can get his next gig.
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